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Roger_Cavanagh
10th of April 2003 (Thu), 08:16
I know there are a few PE users out there who have some experience Photoshop proper. Does anyone think it's worth installing the PE that came with the 10D given I'm using PS 7.01?

Regards,

dtrayers
10th of April 2003 (Thu), 08:41
Roger,

I don't have any hands on experience with PS7 but from what I understand the only "extras" PSE has over PS are the How To "wizards" and I think the Save for Web and Picture Package. PS7 has the PSE browser, and of course the tools available in PS7 far exceed the capabilities of PSE.

You didn't mention if you have PS Elements 1.0 or PS Elements 2.0. If it's 1.0, then I really wouldn't bother using up the disk space.

That's my 2 cents...

Don Ellis
10th of April 2003 (Thu), 08:51
Hi Roger,

I've briefly tried Elements 2.0 and while I consider it an excellent, inexpensive program, I can't imagine why you would install it with PS 7.01 on your system -- unless you were just curious or were testing it for someone on a budget.

If it's for you, don't bother.

Cheers,

Don

Roger_Cavanagh
11th of April 2003 (Fri), 03:38
Thanks for your comments, guys. It was mainly for curiosity reasons, but I did wonder whether it might be like one of those greatest hits albums, where there's one new track so the diehard fan has to buy it. :)

I guess I'll save my time for other things.

Regards,

Anona
20th of April 2003 (Sun), 13:01
Ok, folks...let's get down to some facts. I'm not on a budget but I probably don't "need" the full PS either. Accordingly, I installed PSE 1.0 a year ago and have used it with success for simple operations (red eye, cropping, contrast, color, etc) Question: exactly what is in PSE 2.0 that I can't live without? Better yet, somebody tell me whay I "need" the full on PS.

Ciao,

BJ

jutaoja
21st of April 2003 (Mon), 05:38
Not all photographers need D-SLRs either. Some can even live without any Photoshop. Or without a computer altogether...

To find out what PS meets your needs read
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopel/pdfs/faq.pdf

New and enhanced features in Elements 2.0 http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopel/pdfs/aag.pdf

And then make up your mind yourself!

-Jukka Ojala-

CyberDyneSystems
28th of April 2003 (Mon), 09:59
I like Photoshp Elemnets a lot. I am a long time Photoshop user (since version 3) and now have version 6. But I still installed PE when I got the 10D. I think PS 7 has more of the features that were introduced with PE than version 6 of PS. But dollar for daollar PE is a great tool.

For those of you with PE that wonder about full Photoshop,... PE is far easier to get used to and working right out of the box. It has many of the most used PS features. If you don't feel that your missing something than it is definately not worth the extra $600.00 for Photoshop.

Photoshop users,. install PE and give it a try. You may find yourself using it every now and then...

The Photo Tuell
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 19:45
As a long time Paint Shop Pro user I never really wanted Photoshop. Now that I'm trying to go pro I'm thinking of getting Photoshop. Paint Shop Pro 8 does a lot of the stuff that Photoshop tutorials talk about, just a little differently, sometimes better, sometimes worse.

I got Photoshop Elements 2.0 with the Digital Rebel so figured I'd install it and try to get used to the Photoshop interface and way of doing things. So far I'm not impressed. It doesn't seem easy to use, there are a lot of annoying things that I guess Photoshop users just accept as normal. Everytime I open a new picture it resizes the windows of previously opened pictures. The crop tool doesn't have presets and doesn't remember my last input.

Is the full Photoshop less annoying than Elements 2? From comments here I'm not sure. Maybe I'm just used to the 'consumer' oriented Paint Shop Pro, or does Photoshop really waste that many mouse clicks?

stoneylonesome
18th of September 2003 (Thu), 06:56
I'd stick with PSP8 I love using it although I'm still learning, I think photoshop has a much harder learning curve and doesn't really offer that much more for the BIG difference in price, one of the features I like in PSP8 is the templates for printing, I can print multiple sized and varied picture on one sheet with great ease. The one thing I've found annoying (maybe I'm not doing something right!) is when I resize a photo to say E-Mail, the program remembers it so when I go back in and say resize for something else if I'm not carefull I end up making it to small, Just gotta look more closely!! :)

The Photo Tuell
19th of September 2003 (Fri), 17:58
stoneylonesome wrote:
The one thing I've found annoying (maybe I'm not doing something right!) is when I resize a photo to say E-Mail, the program remembers it so when I go back in and say resize for something else if I'm not carefull I end up making it to small, Just gotta look more closely!! :)

Funny what you find annoying I find useful, hehe.

Tried adding my copyright to some pictures using Photoshop Elements 2 and realized I had to type it out every single time...how annoying. I guess they force you to use 'actions', or macros or whatever they call it, eh?

One reason I wanted Photoshop 8 was for the built in RAW converter. Well I heard about a Capture One Digital Rebel edition, maybe I'll just get that and use PSP8 for editing. :)

TBonez
19th of September 2003 (Fri), 19:44
Photo Tuell, if you save it as a brush, you can use it and reposition your copywrite anywhere. I am no expert with PS. Just passing information on.

TBonez