Raw and photoshop with 350D

[Billy Cabral]

Anyone know the deal with using RAW files in photoshop with the new canon 350D? I've read a bunch of threads in forums around the web,but not sure what it is i'm suppose to do. I have photoshop CS but can't open the files. I heard something about having to get photoshop CS2. Anyone know what I have to do? thanks...

[wolf]

There is no plugin for PSCS to process raw files from the 350D. You need to upgrade to CS2 or a less expensive route (free) is to download Raw Shooter Essentials (http://www.pixmantec.com/products/rawshooter_essentials.html).

[jimsolt]

Anyone know the deal with using RAW files in photoshop with the new canon 350D? I've read a bunch of threads in forums around the web,but not sure what it is i'm suppose to do. I have photoshop CS but can't open the files. I heard something about having to get photoshop CS2. Anyone know what I have to do? thanks...
The only Adobe raw converter that will open the XT RAW files is ACR 3.1. It will work ONLY with Photoshop CS2 or Photoshop Elements 3.

HOWEVER, you can download from the same Adobe site, their DNG converter, a FREE stand alone program that will open the XT raw files. You can then edit them in your CS.

The Canon DPP that came with your camera will also open the XT raw files and you can convert them and edit them in CS.

Or as suggested, there are several third party programs that will work for you.

Jim

[PaulEY]

The dng converter won't convert 350D raw cr2 files, I have tried it on two macs and a pc and have gone back to using my pc at home and raw shooter and it works fine, another step in my work flow but at least now I can shoot in raw.

[Jesper]

The dng converter won't convert 350D raw cr2 files, I have tried it on two macs and a pc and have gone back to using my pc at home and raw shooter and it works fine, another step in my work flow but at least now I can shoot in raw.
Yes it does, just make sure you get the newest version of the DNG converter.

[jimsolt]

The dng converter won't convert 350D raw cr2 files, I have tried it on two macs and a pc and have gone back to using my pc at home and raw shooter and it works fine, another step in my work flow but at least now I can shoot in raw.

It does on my PC.

Jim

[PaulEY]

I downloaded the latest version on all the machines I tried it on, it wouldnt accpet that there were any raw files in the folder I created for the task. The dng converter came with version 2.4 of the camera raw plugin for CS and that is the latest version availble on the Adobe site.

[CyberPet]

The latest DNG Converter works with the 350D/XT if you have Camera Raw 2.4 for Photoshop CS.

If you have Photoshop CS2 you need to upgrade Camera Raw to 3.1.

[CyberPet]

Paul, did you install the Camera Raw plug-in in the right place? And have you checked some settings in DNG converter (it runs like a seperate application).

[dimman]

I have a Canon 300D I mostly shoot RAW files.
As a Graphic Designer I only use the Canons software to do the conversions.
There is nothing better than Canons’ Digital Photo Professional software!!
I’ve tested with software in bureau (PrePress) specialized for converting RAW to TIFF.
No one can catch my quality nor the color I reproduce with Canons sw!!
Take my word for it!


dimman

[cbtoday]

I have a question, the raw files I have is in .cr2 format, I thought it supposed to be in .raw format? I have photoshop 7, it only allows .raw file..??

[dimman]

I have a question, the raw files I have is in .cr2 format, I thought it supposed to be in .raw format? I have photoshop 7, it only allows .raw file..??

Like I said in other topics, use the Canons’ Digital Photo Professional software which is the best when you have a Canon!!!
I can open RAW and CR2 files in Adobe™ Photoshop CSII (frequently on-line updated) but I use Canons’ s/w. Nothing beats it so far! Even more professional RAW file tools, like the well known to the pros, PHASE ONE, I export better TIFFs of JPGs by far!!
No utility/company knows better the Canons’ RAW than Canon it’s self!
This is nothing like other camera brands and software, which a sw like Photoshop, or Phase ONE, can be easily handled.
Canon was in digital image handling ages before digital photography populated!!
I don’t think any company can beat them!!
They just follow the leader, CANON!!

dimman:)

[aximrocks]

Like I said in other topics, use the Canons’ Digital Photo Professional software which is the best when you have a Canon!!!
Canon's software is very limited, it only allows you to adjust white balance and brightness. here is a feature comparison chart

http://www.sphoto.com/techinfo/rawconverters/rawconverters.htm

[dimman]

Canon's software is very limited, it only allows you to adjust white balance and brightness. here is a feature comparison chart

http://www.sphoto.com/techinfo/rawconverters/rawconverters.htm

It does more than that! You can adjust, saturation, brightness, and you can also have a very nice sharpening on the TIF/JPG files.
But if you are doing professional color corrections all you need is white balance to produce 16bit color tiffs, the rest of the corrections you do with Photoshop!

The best think that it does is that it doesn’t ads more noise than already is in ex. 800ASA file! Both PhaseONE and Adobe RAW importers do!!

With the sw and a white paper for white balance picker I managed to much the fabrics shot from my camera (300D) for a catalogue with less than 5% color inaccuracy in a professional pre-press service bureau chromalin.

dimman

[smasraum]

I have a question, the raw files I have is in .cr2 format, I thought it supposed to be in .raw format? I have photoshop 7, it only allows .raw file..??

That's because Photoshop 7 is too old to read the raw files produced by a 350D/XT. You either need non-photoshop software or Photoshop 9 which is "PhotoShop CS2"

[dimman]

That's because Photoshop 7 is too old to read the raw files produced by a 350D/XT. You either need non-photoshop software or Photoshop 9 which is "PhotoShop CS2"


I don’t think that has only to do on how “old” Adobe™ Photoshop CSII or 7 is.
The think is that no respected photography manufacturers release the full structure of its RAW format! There is a site with complains of users and RAW format, called http://www.openraw.org/ explaining all that in details.
As far as I know Canon has two versions of RAW importing, one called PRO which is used in Canons’ “Digital Photo Professional” and a second one of more inferior quality which is free to be used by third party companies. It is also used in ones Canon s/w called “EOSViewerUtility” witch is less professional.

I have Adobe™ Photoshop CSII with the very last update and still can’t get results with better quality (RAW importing) like the Canons’ S/W does!! So I use “Digital Photo Professional”.

dimman :)

[smasraum]

I don’t think that has only to do on how “old” Adobe™ Photoshop CSII or 7 is.

Actually, since Photoshop 7 was released, I believe, in 2002, and the XT/350D wasn't released for another 2 or 3 years, I think that is a huge part of the reason that PS7 won't read his raw files. When they've released 2 newer editions of PS between 7 and the release of the 350D/XT, they aren't likely to continue development of an old version to support newer hardware/file formats.

I understand that you are a fan of DPP, I use it too, but I don't think that's the issue here.

I think we all understand that you think (or it's a fact, whatever) that DPP is better than PS CS2's handling of Canon's raw format. I'm actually glad that you've posted this, but the way you keep trying to cram it down our throats is a bit off putting. RELAX

[davidfig]

I did some comparisons of image quality with DCRAW, PSE2.0, Raw shooter, and DPP. For me dcraw is the standard. It turns out that raw shooter and DPP both give nearly exactly the same results, which makes me think that they have incorporated Dave Coffin's dcraw algorithms. But PSE2 does not seem to have the same quality. I hope PSE3.0 has these new algorithms, but I don't have it.

When I want to do light editing, I use DPP. When I need to do heavy stuff I use PSE2.0 or paint shop pro. To each his own.

[lostdoggy]

It does more than that! You can adjust, saturation, brightness, and you can also have a very nice sharpening on the TIF/JPG files.
But if you are doing professional color corrections all you need is white balance to produce 16bit color tiffs, the rest of the corrections you do with Photoshop!

The best think that it does is that it doesn’t ads more noise than already is in ex. 800ASA file! Both PhaseONE and Adobe RAW importers do!!

With the sw and a white paper for white balance picker I managed to much the fabrics shot from my camera (300D) for a catalogue with less than 5% color inaccuracy in a professional pre-press service bureau chromalin.

dimman

I would argueably disagree with you, DPP is at best OK. I personally prefer Phase One C1 Pro for my convertion, but really what convertion SW one should choose to use is more about confort. You can throw subjective numbers out the door if you are not sure if the image is not right for you. Production aside, the mostimportant part of RAW conertion is to replicate what appears to be the correct WB and exposure with that any rAW converting sW will do the job as long as you are comfortable using it. For you it is DPP, but for me it is Phase One C1 Pro and for some else it is RAWShooter.

And please reduce your font size it is almost like you are shouting.