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kforde
6th of January 2011 (Thu), 10:37
Hey, spent some time in the summer practicing panning on the berms. Any and all constructive comments welcome as I have a long way to go. Specifically tips on sharpness of subject etc.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cc07b3127ccefba07581a16300000040O00EbsWrZs5aMw e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cc07b3127ccefba14dff814d00000040O00EbsWrZs5aMw e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cc07b3127ccefba1c31481e100000040O00EbsWrZs5aMw e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cc07b3127ccefba1c193816700000040O00EbsWrZs5aMw e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480

Thanks in advance!

7D_Sniper
6th of January 2011 (Thu), 11:11
You captured them well, nice shots

Phrasikleia
6th of January 2011 (Thu), 11:41
Excellent job of panning and nice framing. I particularly like the second one. The orange shirt contrasts nicely with the green trees.

danpayneuk
6th of January 2011 (Thu), 13:53
good panning motion. rider looks nice and sharp

24alpha
8th of January 2011 (Sat), 04:22
Actually, you might want to experiment with a slower shuttle speed. You'll get better background blur.
The other this to try is lower down almost underneath the rider. It's great to see their eyes nice and sharp when you're down lower.

mattymc
8th of January 2011 (Sat), 06:14
good work, loving the last shot the most

Slimdog
8th of January 2011 (Sat), 16:02
Last one is great.

chase.mcnabb
8th of January 2011 (Sat), 18:14
Really awesome shots!

bwerd
8th of January 2011 (Sat), 18:35
Nice job, I tried this up at whistler in the summer and is way harder than it looks..

Experimentation is the key!

cjj14u
8th of January 2011 (Sat), 20:22
Love the last one....

Dr. Gonzo
9th of January 2011 (Sun), 19:47
Love them, rider seems to be in great focus.

Care to share settings?

DJCronin28
10th of January 2011 (Mon), 02:11
yea I think these look pretty good!

kforde
11th of January 2011 (Tue), 08:17
I was using a medium Av at between 7-9 (I know there are some decimals in there), and a range of shutter speeds - between 1/40-1/80 depending on the speed of the rider. What Tv would you suggest to gain maximum sharpness, also if anyone can provide some advice on how to incorporate some off camera flash to pull the rider out from the background a bit more?

Thanks for all the positive comments, I was happy with them but know there is always room to improve.

Cheers,

Richtherookie
12th of January 2011 (Wed), 10:24
I have one comment.....TEACH ME! Love them

thebabymilo
12th of January 2011 (Wed), 11:37
Sharp panning, great job with those pictures.

cwood
12th of January 2011 (Wed), 20:10
I was using a medium Av at between 7-9 (I know there are some decimals in there), and a range of shutter speeds - between 1/40-1/80 depending on the speed of the rider. What Tv would you suggest to gain maximum sharpness, also if anyone can provide some advice on how to incorporate some off camera flash to pull the rider out from the background a bit more?

Thanks for all the positive comments, I was happy with them but know there is always room to improve.

Cheers,

If you want to experiment with shutter speed then you should definitely be in TV instead of AV. Otherwise you're just shooting craps with random shutter speeds. You should be able to go as low as 1/20 and still keep it sharp but your rate of success will start to go down.

Any reason you want the flash to be off-camera? I think people get a little too excited about having a flash off-camera when they really don't have a good reason for it. If you are taking a portrait of someone it is better to have the flash off camera so you don't get flat lighting on their face... and if you are taking telephoto sports pictures then off-camera flash will allow you to get the light closer to your subject. But for these wide angle berm shots what photographic/lighting principle is going to benefit from having the flash off camera? If anything having an off-camera flash for these shots will create a strange effect of "freezing" the part of the rider being illuminated by the flash - while the part of the rider that the camera can "see" but the flash cannot will be blurred.

What I would consider is using a very small amount of on-camera flash to help freeze the subjects. using the panning technique you are already isolating them from the background so you don't need to worry so much about light seperation... but if you set a flash to FEV -1 and a shutter speed of 1/20 you will get a slight "pop" on the rider while achieving very high success rate of sharp images.

kforde
13th of January 2011 (Thu), 08:47
@cwood - Thanks for that. Guess I should clarify some of the points, but all you mention is excellent and thanks for that!

When I said Tv/Av I wasn't referring to the priority modes (manual is my preferred mode), rather simply shutter speed and aperture respectively, although I can see the confusion. I ask about flash as off camera as the situations where the riders are on the berms usually involve some extreme contrast between shadow and bright, particularly in the tree space where the sun breaks through, just want to balance it a bit more.

Again, thanks for all the comments, especially the technicals!

Cheers,

Dan-o
13th of January 2011 (Thu), 10:21
If you are going to throw flash into the mix then I would suggest using M for everything. Cycling is pretty easy to shoot because you know exactly the distance the rider will be from you so don't let your camera make decisions for you. You know what look you are after your camera doesn't.

There are a few slow speed flashed pans from a race a few months ago: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=956633

cwood
13th of January 2011 (Thu), 13:00
I ask about flash as off camera as the situations where the riders are on the berms usually involve some extreme contrast between shadow and bright, particularly in the tree space where the sun breaks through, just want to balance it a bit more.

Cheers,

The situation you describe definitely needs flash... but not necessarily off-camera. I see off-camera flash mis-used in MTB more often than it is properly used.

lindsaytblum
14th of January 2011 (Fri), 13:01
These are really cool. The last frame ROCKS!