1966 AC Cobra

[Airedale1]

430 h.p. will really zip a car along that only weighs 2,280 lbs (1034.2 kg):D A lot of the cars at this show had signs on them that said, "Please do not touch." This one had a sign that said, "Please do not drool on the finish."

[mrclark321]

I'm drooling:confused:

[zach]

Great looking car and I really like the PP work! The b/w background really makes the car pop out at you.
On the second pic, is that another cobra on the right? Also, did you do some blurring action on the background?

[Crypto]

can I borrow the keys? :) Nice shots!

[PaCiFiSt]

I'm drooling :)

[speedy_2]

Nice..Replica??

[Airedale1]

Nice..Replica??

I knew someone would ask that. No, it was the real thing.

Zach that is another Cobra next to it, but it was a replica and yes I did use a bit of gaussian blur on the background.

[speedy_2]

I knew someone would ask that. No, it was the real thing.

Zach that is another Cobra next to it, but it was a replica and yes I did use a bit of gaussian blur on the background.

Cool. 100 more times repect when I see a real one. I don't know these cars well enough to spot a replica from an original unless they're side by side. Anyways, nice pics :)

[Ballen Photo]

Nice shots of this Bad Boy! My first clue that it is the real thing was the subject, "1966 AC Cobra". The license plate too. ;) Just a very rough guesstimate, IMHO, 98% of the Cobras seen today are replicas. :shock:
-Bruce

[Red]

Ahh, the Widowmaker. Loverly car.

Nice shots too, although selective colour can be over-used. Have you tried reducing the saturation of the background about halfway? So it's muted, but still colour.
Also, there's a block of obvious blur under the right-hand tail-light in the second pic.

[malla1962]

Nice shots of a very rare car.:D:D

[PhotosGuy]

Nice shots! If you have a shot of the sign that said, "Please do not drool on the finish.", put it in Carz Stickerz? (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=84247) ;)

[Qweevox]

I'm almost sure this is a replica. In truth the replicas running around are better then the originals. If you look under the hood of a replica, you’ll often see a 427 with authentic looking valve covers and components. The frame and suspension of some replicas are better then the originals. From 1964-1968 only a little over 300 427 Cobras where built. The dead give away from the pictures is the lower front air intake on the nose of the car. You'll notice the builder of this replica never cut it out while on an original Cobra it was open. Also, the seats aren’t correct, in the originals the seats where not high backed. However, most replicas have high backed seats. These cars weren’t built for comfort, and their concept of safety was much different then it is today. The other tells are this car looks fantastic! Most people who see the originals think they are replicas because the build quality and look are less refined.

I've attached a picture of an original 1966 427 Cobra owned by a man in California. You’ll notice the lower air intake is open. He had his car was built for the road when he ordered it, so it's even a little more refined then those built only for racing. He bought his car in 1966 and still has it which may make him the only "original" owner of a 1966 427 Cobra left. I love the design, and your capture is great!:lol:

Sorry I couldn't get the image to load: Here is the site http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/CSX3282.shtml

[civis]

Genuine Cobras are so rare, so irreplaceable, and so expensive that they are almost undriveable in the daily sense of the word. It's almost like looking at an Egyptian sarcophagus in the way actually seeing one in person fills me with awe and wonder. I'd love to own one (if I could afford it), but I'd still have a replica made (with state of the art brakes, suspension, engine, and induction system) to actually drive on the street; the original would become a trailer queen to ensure the car's survival at a work of art.

The real upside to really well-done replicas is that they can handle, stop, and go even better (and faster) than the originals. You could say the same for less rare collector cars like a Belvedere resto-modded into an improved semi-clone of a Road Runner, with 4-wheel disc brakes, modern suspension, rack-and-pinion steering, and a new 610 HP crate 528 Cubic inch Hemi under the hood. If you can't afford the genuine article (which most folks can not), think about making something better and much cheaper.

[mrclark321]

I think the original are going for around a million dollars!!! Sure would not want to be putting aftermarket parts on that kind of investment!!

DanGenuine Cobras are so rare, so irreplaceable, and so expensive that they are almost undriveable in the daily sense of the word. It's almost like looking at an Egyptian sarcophagus in the way actually seeing one in person fills me with awe and wonder. I'd love to own one (if I could afford it), but I'd still have a replica made (with state of the art brakes, suspension, engine, and induction system) to actually drive on the street; the original would become a trailer queen to ensure the car's survival at a work of art.

The real upside to really well-done replicas is that they can handle, stop, and go even better (and faster) than the originals. You could say the same for less rare collector cars like a Belvedere resto-modded into an improved semi-clone of a Road Runner, with 4-wheel disc brakes, modern suspension, rack-and-pinion steering, and a new 610 HP crate 528 Cubic inch Hemi under the hood. If you can't afford the genuine article (which most folks can not), think about making something better and much cheaper.

[peacock]

I knew someone would ask that. No, it was the real thing.

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wow i would have put good money on that being a replica;)

[BottomBracket]

Great pics of a classic.

[Dave_G]

I think original Cobras had knock-off style wing nuts on the wheels, not individual wheel bolts like that one.

I could be wrong :)

[neil_r]

This is an original Cobra

http://www.neil-rice.com/gallery/photo/large/MCR_N6H5537.jpg

http://www.neil-rice.com/gallery/photo/large/MCR_N6H5591.jpg

[PhotosGuy]

I think the original are going for around a million dollars!!! :D :D I was told that the one Dan Gurney raced went for $2.2M recently!
You could say the same for less rare collector cars like a Belvedere resto-modded into an improved semi-clone of a Road Runner,... I agree with civis, which is why I like the "Mutts" so much! No one dreams of owning one, but it will bite you on the a** just as fast as a "pure-bred"! :D
Here are a few I've posted this year:
Pro Street 63 Nova SS (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=627314#post627314)
'64 Plymouth Savoy & two Hemi engine treatments. (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=598741#post598741)
'63 Plymouth Sport Fury (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=681912#post681912)
'63 Dodge Polara (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=724053#post724053)
Taxi not for hire! (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=80861&goto=newpost)

[speedy_2]

Dang...I knew I was right!!

[peacock]

This is an original Cobra

http://www.neil-rice.com/gallery/photo/large/MCR_N6H5537.jpg

http://www.neil-rice.com/gallery/photo/large/MCR_N6H5591.jpg

this looks great a 427 too??

but on a K plate ??

[neil_r]

but on a K plate ??

Bloody good point..... It's 1972 :oops::oops:

N

[Qweevox]

this looks great a 427 too??

but on a K plate ??


Ok...what does the "K" plate have to do with anything. Let an American in on the secret?

[peacock]

Ok...what does the "K" plate have to do with anything. Let an American in on the secret?

the K suffix on this vehicles registration plate indicates the year the car was first registered in the uk was 1972 and IIRC the last year of manufacture was 1969 , I may be wrong :o so unless the car was idle in a garage for 3 years before registration it says to me its a kit car based on a chassis from a 1972 car and given a period plate.

someone please correct me if my thinking is flawed.

* runs of to google for info*

*back from google *

last 427 cobra roadster was sold in august of 1968

[Airedale1]

I saw the owner of this car yesterday and I told him about the controversy regarding his car being an original and he again assured me that it was. He also stated that it does not have a 427. It has a 428, which he says is the original motor in this particular Cobra.

I really don't know that much about them myself, but I do know this. He also owns 3 Boyd Coddington cars, one of which I posted on here from the same show, the 1953 Studebaker which I also posted on here and according to folks in town that belong to the same car club as him, 26 other cars which I've yet to see.

[peacock]

Ooo controversy .

sorry I will go check but I didnt think they put the 428 in the original cobra , ac used the 428 in the car they built after the cobra , and to be honest I havnt ever seen a genuine cobra where they havnt cut out the little air scoop under the nose.

edit

ok humble pie time I just went to another site where it says ac made the cobra up till 1973 and put the 428 in the cobra after 1967 . so i have to admit i'm baffled , though I would stil say they just dont look old / right.

[mrclark321]

Also look at the hood latches!! This guy has a great car but too many things amiss!! BTW they did put the 428's in them, check out this article

Dan

http://www.ritzsite.net/AC_Cobra/01_cobra.htm#bottom

[peacock]

I'm still saying neither of the cars look genuine lol

[Qweevox]

I'm a big fan of the cobra design. I'd bet money that the first one is a replica. The nose is the obvious give away. The seats are the next give away, they simply didn't put high backed seats in the orginals.

[Qweevox]

AC did make a cobra after Shelby. They used the same body molds and made metal cars just like the orginals. I think the second cobra is one of there cars. The 1972 plate is interesting since I think they started doing it again in the 1980's.

[Dave_G]

check the gear lever

if it comes out from under the dashboard and up at the driver it's genuine...if not...it's probably using a Borg Warner T5 from a Ford Sierra.

[neil_r]

check the gear lever

if it comes out from under the dashboard and up at the driver it's genuine...

So I guess that makes this one a copy then :(

http://www.neil-rice.com/gallery/photo/large/MCR_N6H5535.jpg

[peacock]

So I guess that makes this one a copy then :(

http://www.neil-rice.com/gallery/photo/large/MCR_N6H5535.jpg

it is none the less a beautiful and desireable car , you can really see the quality there.

[Dave_G]

unfortunately it is - doesn't mean it's not a fantastic specimen though.

real ones also have "AC" logos stamped on the pedals, but you can buy replica ones of those too