Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Read More.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Astronomy & Celestial Talk
Thread started 15 Mar 2011 (Tuesday) 20:11
Prev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

Fake Moon shot?

 
xclusix
Member
36 posts
Joined Feb 2010
Mar 15, 2011 20:11 |  #1

Hey guys, i was just wondering, this guy i know claims to have taken this image last night (March 14th):

IMAGE NOT FOUND IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
http://img268.imagesha​ck.us/img268/5880/fake​moon.jpg (external link)
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/png'


Uploaded with ImageShack.us (external link)

But, this image i think shows the current wrong phase for Mexico am i right?

He also claims that it was shot with a 70-200 + 2x converter wide open...is that level of detail possible on a 50D?

Thanks!



LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)
nebula_42
Member
183 posts
Joined Jan 2005
San Diego
Mar 15, 2011 23:33 |  #2

Moon phases are the same all over the world on the same night. With a 200mm and 2X on a crop body, he's at 640mm. Not a real lot of magnification for the moon. The moon's image on the sensor plane would be about 6mm diameter, but he could have cropped it a lot. I would guess it's been sharpened quite a bit. Looks entirely doable to me. Nice shot.


San Diego, CA

all the usual stuff :)

LOG IN TO REPLY
xclusix
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
36 posts
Joined Feb 2010
Mar 16, 2011 01:59 |  #3

He gave me his permission to post it here, this had to be done on tripod and about F/8.0 right? lowest ISO possible...? thanks...




LOG IN TO REPLY
martyn_bannister
Senior Member
568 posts
Joined Jul 2010
Mar 16, 2011 02:19 |  #4

xclusix wrote in post #12027839 (external link)
Hey guys, i was just wondering, this guy i know claims to have taken this image last night (March 14th):

NOT FOUND IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
http://img268.imagesha​ck.us/img268/5880/fake​moon.jpg (external link)
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/png'


Uploaded with ImageShack.us (external link)

But, this image i think shows the current wrong phase for Mexico am i right?

He also claims that it was shot with a 70-200 + 2x converter wide open...is that level of detail possible on a 50D?

Thanks!

Very sharp for a zoom + TC on a APS-C body, even allowing for PP.

If in any doubt, just start up Stellarium and plug in your mexican friend's location. Have a look at the moon for the date and time in question. See what he would have seen. Simple :)




LOG IN TO REPLY
hollis_f
Cream of the Crop
hollis_f's Avatar
10,649 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Jul 2007
Sussex, UK
Mar 16, 2011 07:39 |  #5

xclusix wrote in post #12029403 (external link)
He gave me his permission to post it here, this had to be done on tripod and about F/8.0 right? lowest ISO possible...? thanks...

It's spot on for the correct phase, and I can't see anything that would suggest it's not genuine.

Get him to post the image with the exif data intact. That will show camera model, lens, date, exposure settings.


The only problem is that it's upside-down:D

IMAGE: http://www.frankhollis.com/temp/Moon-1.jpg

Frank Hollis - Retired mass spectroscopist
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll complain about the withdrawal of his free fish entitlement.
Gear Websiteexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
hagz
Junior Member
29 posts
Joined Feb 2011
Mar 16, 2011 14:22 |  #6

here is one i took a couple of nights ago with a 70-300 no extension tube or anything else on my eos 60d

IMAGE: http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/richard_haggath/slr%20photographs/moon.png

Canon EOS 60d, Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD, Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM, Whats next??? a nice prime with a wide aperture.

LOG IN TO REPLY
hagz
Junior Member
29 posts
Joined Feb 2011
Mar 16, 2011 14:23 |  #7

not quite as sharp but it was my first attempt and it is blown up a little


Canon EOS 60d, Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD, Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM, Whats next??? a nice prime with a wide aperture.

LOG IN TO REPLY
martyn_bannister
Senior Member
568 posts
Joined Jul 2010
Mar 16, 2011 17:00 as a reply to hagz's post |  #8

Taken tonight using Canon 10D mounted prime focus on 130mm reflector, stacked 17 images and sharpened unmercifully.

IMAGE NOT FOUND IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
MIME changed to 'text/html' | Content warning: script



LOG IN TO REPLY
xclusix
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
36 posts
Joined Feb 2010
Mar 16, 2011 19:22 |  #9

Well i guess ill never know, the 60D+70-300 shot is impressive as well...this guy wont provide RAW image, PP method and the jpeg given has no EXIF...so... ill have to belive him. Thanks you all!

PS. i tried it on my 7D with a 300F4 and i just cant get that much detail without stacking...i dont know how to do that BTW...




LOG IN TO REPLY
hagz
Junior Member
29 posts
Joined Feb 2011
Mar 17, 2011 02:43 |  #10

if you ask me the 50d is shot is extremely sharp i did a bit of an experiment and sharpened my image in it's max resolution and then cropped it it does look sharper but not that sharp lol.

IMAGE: http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/richard_haggath/slr%20photographs/moon-1.jpg

Canon EOS 60d, Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD, Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM, Whats next??? a nice prime with a wide aperture.

LOG IN TO REPLY
martyn_bannister
Senior Member
568 posts
Joined Jul 2010
Mar 17, 2011 03:01 as a reply to hagz's post |  #11

I think the "seeing" has a lot to do with how sharp an image results. No doubt in Mexico the seeing is a lot better than the south of UK :)




LOG IN TO REPLY
xclusix
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
36 posts
Joined Feb 2010
Mar 17, 2011 20:05 |  #12

No no i did some tests and with a 300 and 1.4x at f8 on tripod ISO 100 and lots of PP my image is not that sharp... I cant just belive him... Any good PP method you know? What i do is no NR raw from DPP then little sharpening, into PS. In PS CS5 i do levels layer select aplly, crop and then USM for overall contrast. Then on a new layer high pass filter and mask over where i want it sharper with hard light blending mode... Is that any good?




LOG IN TO REPLY
martyn_bannister
Senior Member
568 posts
Joined Jul 2010
Mar 18, 2011 01:53 |  #13

Well, the answer is, if you can't quite believe the first shot is real, ask for another :) If your friend can produce on demand, they must be kosha.




LOG IN TO REPLY
tonylong
"Amazingly attractive"
tonylong's Avatar
53,944 posts
Gallery: 29 photos
Joined Sep 2007
Vancouver, WA USA
Mar 18, 2011 02:01 |  #14

What exactly are you questioning? I've seen some pretty good shots using a 70-200 with a 2x TC, and it's true that the moon can take some pretty aggressive sharpening.

Are you questioning thinking the guy used a better lens for this?


Tony
Two Canon cameras (5DC, 30D), three Canon lenses (24-105, 100-400, 100mm macro)
Tony Long Photos on PBaseexternal link
Wildlife project pics hereexternal link, Biking Photog shoots hereexternal link, "Suburbia" project hereexternal link! Mount St. Helens, Mount Hood pics hereexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
hagz
Junior Member
29 posts
Joined Feb 2011
Mar 18, 2011 10:33 |  #15

xclusix wrote in post #12040863external link
No no i did some tests and with a 300 and 1.4x at f8 on tripod ISO 100 and lots of PP my image is not that sharp... I cant just belive him... Any good PP method you know? What i do is no NR raw from DPP then little sharpening, into PS. In PS CS5 i do levels layer select aplly, crop and then USM for overall contrast. Then on a new layer high pass filter and mask over where i want it sharper with hard light blending mode... Is that any good?

wow thats a lot of PP i just took the shot cropped it adjusted the exposure settings then sharpened a little could be why mine i snot so sharp.


Canon EOS 60d, Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD, Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM, Whats next??? a nice prime with a wide aperture.

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

4,159 views & 0 likes for this thread
Fake Moon shot?
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Astronomy & Celestial Talk


Not a member yet? Click here to register to the forums.
Registered members get all the features: search, following threads, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, settings, view hosted photos, own reviews and more...


AAA

Send feedback to staff    •   Jump to forum...    •   Rules    •   Index    •   New posts    •   RTAT    •   'Best of'    •   Gallery    •   Gear    •   Reviews    •   Polls

COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Privacy policy and cookie usage info.

POWERED BY AMASS 1.4version 1.4
made in Finland
by Pekka Saarinen
for photography-on-the.net
Spent 0.00301 for 4 database queries.
PAGE COMPLETED IN 0.04s
Latest registered member is whould983
953 guests, 544 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6106, that happened on Jun 09, 2016