Another Photographer fired for altering images

R Hardman · 7th of August 2006 (Mon)

Saw this on CNN. Can't blame them for firing him. He did a really bad job altering his images. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...eut/index.html

Mark0159 · 7th of August 2006 (Mon)

that's really interesting. I have been unable to view the video as I am work. However I don't blame them for the action that they are taking. They are in the business of reporting the news as it is. Not as they wont it to be.

However in saying that I wonder how offen they crop a photo to remove something that they think shouldn't be there, which can in effect change the meaning of an image?

Jon Foster · 7th of August 2006 (Mon)

I just read about it on Fox News too...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207352,00.html

Jon.

sando · 7th of August 2006 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNN

Hajj told Reuters he was trying to remove dust marks from the photograph.

Dust that would be visible on that image? I think not.

He souldnt be fired for altering the images if it were true that he was removing dust... he should be shot for blatant dodgy use of clone-stamp!

nation · 7th of August 2006 (Mon)

Sounds reasonable to me. He's a PJ there to report on the facts not use PS to come up with his own fantasies.

JayKitty · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

haha he really did do a terrible job at doing that. looks like he clone stamped a few dozen times

jpvaz · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayKitty

... he really did do a terrible job at doing that...

I have to agree with you.... i'm no photoshop expert but i belive even i could have done it better... Well, he got what he deserved!!!

"If you play with fire, you will eventualy get burned!!"

Tom W · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

This particular photographer has several instances where he has "staged" incidents in relation to the Israel/Lebonon situation, including the use of the same characters in at least 3 incidents in which the same young girl was classified as dead, injured, and being loaded into an ambulance. It was pretty obvious that this particular reporter had a strong bias in this situation.

Lots of this going around in the mainstream media, unfortunately. Seems that they want to "create" the story instead of just reporting it.

Doom1701e · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

What crappy editing in that CNN pic. What was that guy using, Microsoft Paint?

Carzee · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

Its a safe thing to assume everyone is trying to sell a POV.

Thats my POV anyway.

Did you buy it?

Mark0159 · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

yep, 100% of it. well almost anyway. Everyone has a POV. Strange as it seems there are some out there that do try and bring out information with having a POV. the main problem is they are normaly hidden by those with their own POV. Or the content is edited with someone else POV.

Unless you consider yourself an artist and then your art is your POV.

RTMiller · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

Here is a link to the article...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13165165/

This guy has some pretty poor cloning skills. Totally unneccessary on his part.
Now it would have been a much better picture if he cloned in a couple of Israeli jets.

Longwatcher · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

The CNN article has more background.
It was no accident as he has also apparently added flares to an Israeli Jet in another picture.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...eut/index.html

Personally I would use PS CS2's spot heal tool to remove dust spots not the clone tool. He would have to have PS 6 or earlier to not have at least the heal tool.

PacAce · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

They should have fired the editor, too. The cloning is so obvous I'm surprised the editor didn't catch it before it was ever published.

UncleDoug · 8th of August 2006 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by PacAce

They should have fired the editor, too. The cloning is so obvous I'm surprised the editor didn't catch it before it was ever published.

Second this motion!

"There is no graver breach of Reuters standards for our photographers than the deliberate manipulation of an image,"

That about says it.

7th of August 2006 (Mon)	#1
R Hardman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 29 Palms, Ca. Posts: 1,512	Another Photographer fired for altering images Saw this on CNN. Can't blame them for firing him. He did a really bad job altering his images. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...eut/index.html __________________ "Whatever you can do to avoid Photoshop is worth it" EOS 7D, EOS 350D, EF 17-40mm f/4L USM, EF 70-200mm f/4L USM, EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM (Kit) Rick's Digital Desert

7th of August 2006 (Mon)	#2
Mark0159 I say stupid things all the time Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Tron, New Zealand Posts: 11,349	Re: Another Photographer fired for altering images that's really interesting. I have been unable to view the video as I am work. However I don't blame them for the action that they are taking. They are in the business of reporting the news as it is. Not as they wont it to be. However in saying that I wonder how offen they crop a photo to remove something that they think shouldn't be there, which can in effect change the meaning of an image? __________________ Mark's gear list "the fact is that relatively few photographers ever master their medium" - Edward Weston

7th of August 2006 (Mon)	#3
Jon Foster is it safe? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: White Lake, MI Posts: 4,504	Re: Another Photographer fired for altering images I just read about it on Fox News too... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207352,00.html Jon. __________________ I shoot with a Little Canon Check out my photos @ PBase.com & ModelMayhem.com

7th of August 2006 (Mon)	#5
nation Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Oz Posts: 904 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Another Photographer fired for altering images Sounds reasonable to me. He's a PJ there to report on the facts not use PS to come up with his own fantasies. __________________ 7D and lenses.

8th of August 2006 (Tue)	#6
JayKitty Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 369 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Another Photographer fired for altering images haha he really did do a terrible job at doing that. looks like he clone stamped a few dozen times __________________ My Stuff: Canon 20D+BG-E2 / Canon 70-200 2.8L USM / Sigma 24-70 f2.8 EX DG Macro / Canon 50mm 1.8 / Sekonic L-358 Light Meter JayKittle.com

8th of August 2006 (Tue)	#8
Tom W Canon Fanosapien Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee Posts: 12,745 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Another Photographer fired for altering images This particular photographer has several instances where he has "staged" incidents in relation to the Israel/Lebonon situation, including the use of the same characters in at least 3 incidents in which the same young girl was classified as dead, injured, and being loaded into an ambulance. It was pretty obvious that this particular reporter had a strong bias in this situation. Lots of this going around in the mainstream media, unfortunately. Seems that they want to "create" the story instead of just reporting it. __________________ Tom 5D III, 7D, & various lenses

8th of August 2006 (Tue)	#9
Doom1701e Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: ©@Ŀϊf¤ŗПιǻ Posts: 1,241	Re: Another Photographer fired for altering images What crappy editing in that CNN pic. What was that guy using, Microsoft Paint? __________________ www.firemaplephotography.com Gear List

8th of August 2006 (Tue)	#10
Carzee Cream of the Crop Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 6,476 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Another Photographer fired for altering images Its a safe thing to assume everyone is trying to sell a POV. Thats my POV anyway. Did you buy it? __________________ POTN Aussie Club CameraJuice.com / my EOS gear "Photograph like a hunter... and hunt like a photographer." -RC

8th of August 2006 (Tue)	#12
RTMiller Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,241	More photo manipulation by a press photographer Here is a link to the article... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13165165/ This guy has some pretty poor cloning skills. Totally unneccessary on his part. Now it would have been a much better picture if he cloned in a couple of Israeli jets. __________________ Todd *www.PHOTODDGRAPHY.com* Equipment List Everyone is beautiful if you squint.

8th of August 2006 (Tue)	#13
Longwatcher obsolete as of this post Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Newport News, VA, USA Posts: 3,903	Re: More photo manipulation by a press photographer The CNN article has more background. It was no accident as he has also apparently added flares to an Israeli Jet in another picture. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...eut/index.html Personally I would use PS CS2's spot heal tool to remove dust spots not the clone tool. He would have to have PS 6 or earlier to not have at least the heal tool. __________________ "Save the model, Save the camera, The Photographer can be repaired" www.longwatcher.com 1DsMkIII as primary camera with f2.8L zooms and the 85L http://www.longwatcher.com/photoequipment.htm

8th of August 2006 (Tue)	#14
PacAce Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: ABE, PA USA Posts: 26,408	Re: More photo manipulation by a press photographer They should have fired the editor, too. The cloning is so obvous I'm surprised the editor didn't catch it before it was ever published. __________________ ...Leo

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