Canon 5DmkII, 7D, 1DmkIV, 550D/T2i Rebel against 35mm film

[AlexMaragos]

Zacuto wins the EMMY Award for "The Great Camera Shootout 2010"
The three part web series where HD DSLRs fought against legendary 35mm Film,
showcasing the top performing hybrid HD-DSLR cameras like the Canon 5D MKII, 7D, 1D, 550D/T2i Rebel, etc,
comparing the image quality against the gold standard of 35mm film.

Read the full article & watch the 3 amazing episodes that gave Zacuto the EMMY.

[benesotor]

Great series, I remember watching when they first came out. Very interesting how each camera excelled in it's own way rather than 1 camera leading the way in all aspects.

[edmyloo]

Just finished episode 1. Very, very interesting so far, whether you do digital video or not.

[Kolor-Pikker]

Still too bad that all current DSLRs and even the new Panasonic AF100 use 8-bit 4:2:0 long-gop mpeg compression. It's ok if you get the look right in camera, but starts to fall apart if you do any greenscreen, grading and/or effects.
If Panny also threw in AVCintra/P2 as standard on the AF100, made it a full-size cam and given it a proper video lens, more than a few people would be all over it, myself included.

[benesotor]

Originally Posted by Kolor-Pikker

Still too bad that all current DSLRs and even the new Panasonic AF100 use 8-bit 4:2:0 long-gop mpeg compression. It's ok if you get the look right in camera, but starts to fall apart if you do any greenscreen, grading and/or effects.
If Panny also threw in AVCintra/P2 as standard on the AF100, made it a full-size cam and given it a proper video lens, more than a few people would be all over it, myself included.

You're safer if you wrap it with Cineform or proress aren't you? At least you're dealing with 444/422

[Kolor-Pikker]

Originally Posted by benesotor

You're safer if you wrap it with Cineform or proress aren't you? At least you're dealing with 444/422

But that's kind of like converting an 8-bit jpeg into a 16-bit tiff isn't it? Maybe you get a bit more wiggle room in post, but if the original data wasn't captured, it doesn't exist.

Not saying everyone needs to do 300-style effects, but it would be nice to shoot a neutral image and then choose a "look" in post and not worry about artifacts.

[benesotor]

Originally Posted by Kolor-Pikker

But that's kind of like converting an 8-bit jpeg into a 16-bit tiff isn't it? Maybe you get a bit more wiggle room in post, but if the original data wasn't captured, it doesn't exist.

Not saying everyone needs to do 300-style effects, but it would be nice to shoot a neutral image and then choose a "look" in post and not worry about artifacts.

Oh no I realise that it's still being smashed down by the 8bit compression. It's just working in prores/cineform 422 does seem to be a better starting point for post.

I'm waiting for RAW video

[Trey T]

excellent comparison. everybody is out there fighting to produce the best dynamic range now. canon is rumor to have dynamic range like RED, ~20stops.

I believe, as soon as digital becomes more powerful w/ dynamic range where it comes to human's eye, film will be obsolete.

[jahsteez]

hey guys can someone tell me what lens would be the best to film moving objects susch as kiteboarding i will buy a 550 D with 10-22mm wide angel but need a zoom lens with it which one would be the best ? thx

[joe1946]

Originally Posted by jahsteez

hey guys can someone tell me what lens would be the best to film moving objects susch as kiteboarding i will buy a 550 D with 10-22mm wide angel but need a zoom lens with it which one would be the best ? thx

The 10-22mm is a zoom lens.