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Things I know now that I wish I knew then.

 
JoePhotoOnline
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Jul 05, 2010 18:16 |  #1

Just hit 800 posts, and I realize how far my photography has come in the last two years.

As I think about the last few years and everything I've learned, I realize how much time and money I have wasted to get where I am now.

So, for the beginners out there now, I'm going to start a list of things that I would have done differently now.

1) Start with a manual camera and 35mm film.

2) Buy good glass before new bodies.

3) A comfortable camera strap counts.

4) Shoot for compositional excellence before technical excellence.

5) Shoot tight, crop tighter.

6) The continuous drive can hurt more than it helps.

7) Megapixels DON'T matter.

8.) Mommy and Daddy will love every photo.

9) 90% of the internet is BS, the other 10% is hard to find, but worth it.

10) Prime lenses = Gold

11) Pro-Gear is not needed for Pro-Photos.

12) Beginners talk about cameras, Pros talk about lenses, and Master don't say a lot, but when they do, it's usually about light.


and many more.... Who wants to add?



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Jul 05, 2010 18:18 |  #2

Two more:

13) When taking a shot, if you think about 'fixing' it later in PS, stop.

14) Have a backup body.



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Jul 05, 2010 18:27 |  #3

15. Ignore everything and do it your own way


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Jul 05, 2010 18:29 |  #4

16. Reach 800 post and list the stuff you learned


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Jul 05, 2010 18:33 |  #5

17. Make a consecutive list


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Jul 06, 2010 04:39 |  #6

18. Reply to post like this to get post count


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Jul 06, 2010 05:11 |  #7

19. Teach what you know to the newbies. You'll find that you learn more about the subject in the process.


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Jul 06, 2010 05:22 |  #8

20. Upgrade to Point and Shoot from Disposable Camera


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Jul 06, 2010 07:15 |  #9

SkipD wrote in post #10484718external link
19. Teach what you know to the newbies. You'll find that you learn more about the subject in the process.

That is so true - if you teach a subject well, it deepens your own understanding of it.

I used to be a trainer and found that my own proficiency increased dramatically after I started training.

We used the Concious competence model :
1) Unconcious incompetence (the person isn't aware of deficient skill)
-> 2)Concious incompetence (they become aware of the deficiency and start learning)
-> 3)Concious competence (they can perform the skill while concentrating on it)
-> 4) unconscious competence (they can perform the skill without concentrating on it).

Someone training the skill needs to be able to lead the candidate through the 4 stages
1) Show the person they lack the skill and how it is important
2) Show them how the skill is performed and why
3) Assist practise of the skill until it can be done with concentration
4) The skill becomes "ingrained" after sufficient practise and learning

What that entails though is breaking a skill down and understanding what you do and why (at level 4) and how to get that over to someone at level 1.

If you can do that, it seriously helps your own understanding!

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Jul 06, 2010 07:22 |  #10

There have on occasion been times when I've tried to give "newbies" sage advice but then over time realized I was just being dumb...but that isn't really on-topic:)!


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Jul 06, 2010 09:09 |  #11

It's not what you know, it's who you know. Oh wait, we're talking about photography...


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Jul 06, 2010 09:14 |  #12

As a noob love the list, though I feel #9 may be more like 96-4 split




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Jul 06, 2010 09:15 |  #13

mikekelley wrote in post #10482303external link
15. Ignore everything and do it your own way

Classic...:lol:


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Jul 06, 2010 11:21 |  #14

SkipD wrote in post #10484718external link
19. Teach what you know to the newbies. You'll find that you learn more about the subject in the process.

This is SOOO true in so many endeavours! Might I add a caveat? Don't get upset when the newbie asks questions beyond your ability to answer, and certainly don't "make up" an answer just to appear to know more than you do. This is an opportunity to "learn to teach" and to take the newbie and learn as a team. You will garner far more respect that way . . .


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Jul 06, 2010 12:36 |  #15

20. CPL's make a big difference outdoors!


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