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Apr 23, 2011 13:33 |  #31

rxjohn wrote in post #12278361external link
My only complaint about Canon is the inability to use FD & FL lenses on EOS body without sacrificing focal length, aperture, and inifinity focus like Nikon can.

Yeah but my M42s have the opposite problem if I try a Nikon.


My imagine composition sucks. I need a heavier lens.

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Apr 23, 2011 13:52 |  #32

uOpt wrote in post #12278101external link
As I said, I didn't try it. But people were reporting a whole bunch of issues with D7000s and Thailand made D700s recently, starting from dead pixels.

Do you believe everything you read on the net? From my experience with both systems, Canon has a lot more QC issues. I stay with Canon for their camera 5d2. If Nikon had an equivalent, I would most likey be shooting a Nikon today.




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Apr 23, 2011 14:10 |  #33

I could never get past the ergonomics and over pricedness of nikon gear. Its kept me away for many years. That and IMO the two brands are pretty even. Where one has one advantage the other has another. Likewise with the disadvantages. I have been hardcore Canon for 11 years now and will likely remain that way evermore seeing as how much money I have invested in their gear.


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Apr 23, 2011 14:15 |  #34

Hogloff wrote in post #12278663external link
Do you believe everything you read on the net? From my experience with both systems, Canon has a lot more QC issues. I stay with Canon for their camera 5d2. If Nikon had an equivalent, I would most likey be shooting a Nikon today.

A pretty convincing picture was drawn that overall thing didn't go all smooth in the Thailand plant and/or some headaches with the move were to be sorted out.

There is a difference between believing single sources easily and accumulating hints to draw a mental picture. That mental picture also fits other businesses moves to cheaper manufacturing countries and at some point you rate the probability that it's true at > 50%.

I already said that on paper I find Nikon very attractive. But a calculation of body + "required" lenses has never left room for a switch so far.


My imagine composition sucks. I need a heavier lens.

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Apr 23, 2011 14:39 as a reply to uOpt's post |  #35

One of the most important F1 photographers last year switched to Nikon after decades of shooting Canon. The reason was "noise", according to a relative of his whom I spoke with (no direct evidence, but I would trust it).
At the track it looks like 50/50 between Canon and Nikon shooters, maybe a few more Canon.

I have Canon but I am repeatedly told that the Nikon service is much better in this part of the world (Switzerland). Again, no direct evidence; I dealt with Canon service once and it was perfectly fine.

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Apr 23, 2011 15:03 |  #36

I started out with the Canon AE-1, used the Canon F-1, switched to Nikon and got the FM2 - GREAT Camera!!, also used the Nikon F3+MD4 MotorDrive. Then switched back to Canon and bought the EOS A2 AF film camera, which I still use today.

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Apr 23, 2011 15:10 |  #37

rxjohn wrote in post #12278361external link
My only complaint about Canon is the inability to use FD & FL lenses on EOS body without sacrificing focal length, aperture, and inifinity focus like Nikon can.

Nikon can't use FD or FL lenses..

Unless you meant Nikon can use Nikon lenses. But so can Canon, so that's not really an advantage.


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Apr 23, 2011 15:18 as a reply to post 12277324 |  #38

I've never used Nikon, but I came close in the early 70's. I almost bought a Nikon F Photomic.

I just bought my first Canon, a G 12 a couple of months ago. Not a DSLR....but a fine little camera that I absolutley love to use and put through it's (many) photographic paces.

I've worked (long,long time ago) as a photographer, also been an avid enthusiast for the past 43 years.

I never get rid of anything, so some of the equipment I've got :

  • Pentax SLR / DSLR
  • Leica Rangefinder (film)
  • Mamiya Medium Format system with three Mamiya-Sekor lenses
  • Zeiss- Ikon Super Ikonta B (Medium format)
  • Yashicamat (medium format)


Over the years, I've taken 1000's of pictures in temps ranging from 30 below to about 100 above. I find that there really isn't any dark side...as long as you use very good equipment.

In the end photography is like driving....it's always the nut behind the wheel...or in the case of photography...the viewfinder that determines how good things turn out.

Two cameras I want and are on my top two list...the Canon 5D Mk. 11 (with 17-40 L F 4 lens) and the Pentax K5 with a couple of the jewel like Pentax Limited prime lenses.

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Apr 23, 2011 15:21 |  #39

All those lenses where loaners at some rented location at the venue. Some might think its an urban legend, they did it the Olympics and World Cup.


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Apr 23, 2011 15:56 as a reply to post 12277324 |  #40

I was a nikon user D60, D300. I Switched to Canon due to more affordable full frame and in my opinion much more user friendly menu structure. I am extremely happy with the switch. My Canon is a Referb 5D.


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Apr 23, 2011 17:05 |  #41

When was that picture taken? Because I've seen photos from the last couple of years that show about a 50-50 mix.

But to answer your question, no I've never gone to the dark side. I have considered their cameras when it has come time to do a serious upgrade. But every time after going to the camera store and playing around with comparable Canon and Nikon models I've walked out with the Canon.


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Apr 23, 2011 17:10 |  #42

tkbslc wrote in post #12279006external link
Nikon can't use FD or FL lenses..

Unless you meant Nikon can use Nikon lenses. But so can Canon, so that's not really an advantage.

Both Nikon and Canon can use Nikon lenses. Both Nikon and Canon can use FD and FL lenses but with some sacrifice. It would have been nice to be able to use FD lens like Nikon lens without having to use an adapter with glass.




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Apr 23, 2011 17:50 as a reply to rxjohn's post |  #43

I still own a Nikon FE2, it is one of the best camera's I ever had.
The Nikkor 1.8/50mm is extremely flare resistant: sun in view at high noon is handled very well.
No aperture reflections at all.
All so the "sun star" looks far better than with any Canon lens, because the lens has 12 diafragm blades in stead of Canons 8 blades. (yeah I know, I'm the only one who cares about sun stars...)

I'm going to try my Nikkor 50/1.8 on my 7D. Looking for a adapter ring with focus confirm chip.


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Apr 23, 2011 18:01 |  #44

I loved my F4... Started with Canon A1, switched to Nikon F4 then made the digital conversion when technology finally made it a good option. Canon was ahead with digital technology at the time, otherwise I may have stayed with Nikon. Too late to switch again as I could not afford to start over with lenses..




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Apr 23, 2011 19:28 |  #45

Briefly used D200 with Nikon 17-55mm but i did not see any major advantage over my 1DS Mark II.
I do think that WB from Nikon is more accurate.
I am so deep into Canon now and I do not want to lose any money to switch.


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