Canon Digital Photography Forums  

Go Back   Canon Digital Photography Forums > 'Sharing Knowhow' section > Talk About Photography > General Photography Talk
Register Rules FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3286
monk3y
Totally Saturated
 
monk3y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of Short Skirts and Anime Fantasies
Posts: 46,067
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Rob, Kenji has been talking about the 7D's issue for a while now that's why I said those things he actually has some very nice macro shots when he is not complaining about his gear
__________________
www.monk3y.com | My GEAR
monk3y is offline  
This ad block will go away when you log in as member
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3287
TMR Design
Cream of the Crop
 
TMR Design's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Huntington Station, NY
Posts: 23,878
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by monk3y View Post
Rob, Kenji has been talking about the 7D's issue for a while now that's why I said those things he actually has some very nice macro shots when he is not complaining about his gear
Ahh. I see. okie dokie.

I could tell you guys some scary D300 stories from a few years ago.. loll
__________________
Please call me Robert or Rob, not TMR
Gear List & Feedback | The Lighting Academy

"Art is the elimination of the unnecessary." - Pablo Picasso
TMR Design is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3288
eye2i
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,612
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by monk3y View Post
But appreciating your camera's capabilities is more fun than criticizing its flaws... So I usually just shut up and use it more hehe after all We all know everything is a compromise

I have been pretty happy with my gear... I haven't even tried doing Micro adjust on any of my lenses... Basically coz I don't know how that's maybe why I don't have any focus/sharpness issues too hehe

I am doing this as a hobby though unlike some of you... So I try to enjoy it as much as I can with the gear I have
Great post. Go Pinoy!


Im leaving Nikon for now *sighs* I'm going to miss my D700 but damn Nikon's prime glasses are hella expensive. For example, Canon's 35L can be had for $1200, Nikon's 35 1.4G is right around $1500-$1700. 135L can be had for as low as $800+, Nikons 135 DC's lowest price is at $1100, Nikon 24 1.4 is near $2000, Canon's 24L II is priced at $1400.00 Nikon makes the best bodies IMO but damn their glass is just too much for some hobbyists like me and Monk3y.
eye2i is online now  
This ad block will go away when you log in as member
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3289
tim
Light Bringer
 
tim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 49,072
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by monk3y View Post
Rob, Kenji has been talking about the 7D's issue for a while now that's why I said those things he actually has some very nice macro shots when he is not complaining about his gear
At least it's not just me who complained about the 7D!
tim is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3290
TMR Design
Cream of the Crop
 
TMR Design's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Huntington Station, NY
Posts: 23,878
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim View Post
At least it's not just me who complained about the 7D!
Not just you, Tim.

I thought the 7D was ok but not what I expected or wanted and based on all the hype I found it to be a disappointment.
__________________
Please call me Robert or Rob, not TMR
Gear List & Feedback | The Lighting Academy

"Art is the elimination of the unnecessary." - Pablo Picasso
TMR Design is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3291
monk3y
Totally Saturated
 
monk3y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of Short Skirts and Anime Fantasies
Posts: 46,067
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TMR Design View Post
Ahh. I see. okie dokie.

I could tell you guys some scary D300 stories from a few years ago.. loll
Haha no thanks... The less i knkw the better

Quote:
Originally Posted by eye2i View Post
Great post. Go Pinoy!


Im leaving Nikon for now *sighs* I'm going to miss my D700 but damn Nikon's prime glasses are hella expensive. For example, Canon's 35L can be had for $1200, Nikon's 35 1.4G is right around $1500-$1700. 135L can be had for as low as $800+, Nikons 135 DC's lowest price is at $1100, Nikon 24 1.4 is near $2000, Canon's 24L II is priced at $1400.00 Nikon makes the best bodies IMO but damn their glass is just too much for some hobbyists like me and Monk3y.
Haha thanks

Wow I did not look at it like that from the usual trio workhorse zoom lens it looks pretty even but when it comes to primes it looks like Canon is indeed cheaper

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim View Post
At least it's not just me who complained about the 7D!
It looks like the 7D is a no middle ground camera... Either you love it or you hate it
__________________
www.monk3y.com | My GEAR
monk3y is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3292
dharrisphotog
Goldmember
 
dharrisphotog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,331
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

I'm glad I'm not the only one with Nikons opinion. Canon has more options for glass at more price points. 70-200 f/4 for $500 or $1000 with IS vs nada for Nikon. Well I guess you can go with an 80-200 for Nikon. I'm not impressed with any of the Canon bodies except for the 5DMII.
__________________
D800 | Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art | Nikkor 85mm 1.8G | Nikkor 70-200 2.8G
Gear | Facebook | Twitter | Flickr | Google+
dharrisphotog is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3293
TMR Design
Cream of the Crop
 
TMR Design's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Huntington Station, NY
Posts: 23,878
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by monk3y View Post
It looks like the 7D is a no middle ground camera... Either you love it or you hate it
True. Before I bought one I asked a few people I knew that were shooting with it and getting absolutely beautiful results. I got great feedback.

When I got the camera I was excited because it had the new camera feel and smell and by the second day I started to realize that I wasn't liking it. I do two shoots with it and while the images were ok I wasn't excited about performance and I quickly saw that I was having the low ISO noise issue.
__________________
Please call me Robert or Rob, not TMR
Gear List & Feedback | The Lighting Academy

"Art is the elimination of the unnecessary." - Pablo Picasso
TMR Design is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3294
KenjiS
Cream of the Crop
 
KenjiS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 19,995
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TMR Design View Post
Ahh. I see. okie dokie.

I could tell you guys some scary D300 stories from a few years ago.. loll
As you said, recognize the cameras flaws and work around them, For me, it just means i have to use more live view (Which chews up one of my two batteries very quickly) or "guess" sometimes... I've never been too upset with the IQ on my 7D though, i dont have the low ISO noise problem i guess...and at high ISOs i consider it "Clean enough" IE heres a 1600 shot i did...and i frequently work at 1600 with the camera without any complaints (And hell, 3200, But i dont like using 6400)


Finished Highball by Kenjis9965, on Flickr


Quote:
Originally Posted by monk3y View Post

It looks like the 7D is a no middle ground camera... Either you love it or you hate it
The 7D is a VERY focused tool, It has its uses, but if you step outside of those specific uses you do find the 7D is "out of its element"

The 7D is really made for wildlife and sports, Its not a landscape camera, it does not shine for landscapes and architechture and that...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Razeus View Post
I'm glad I'm not the only one with Nikons opinion. Canon has more options for glass at more price points. 70-200 f/4 for $500 or $1000 with IS vs nada for Nikon. Well I guess you can go with an 80-200 for Nikon. I'm not impressed with any of the Canon bodies except for the 5DMII.
Personally id rather have one of the older Nikon 80-200s, Which you can find with a little searching for around $500...but i do see your point i guess

Quote:
Originally Posted by TMR Design View Post
True. Before I bought one I asked a few people I knew that were shooting with it and getting absolutely beautiful results. I got great feedback.

When I got the camera I was excited because it had the new camera feel and smell and by the second day I started to realize that I wasn't liking it. I do two shoots with it and while the images were ok I wasn't excited about performance and I quickly saw that I was having the low ISO noise issue.
Indeed, I started to really notice the flaws with it a bit later at least after i had a lot of time shooting it and such...I am not sure there is a better camera for me out there right now however...So I'm staying put until i feel there is...

The D7000 has the IQ and everything, but the build i am unsure on, and the D300s has the build i want but i do not think i want to give up the IQ....

The closest camera to what i really want is the A77, But I am not going with a Sony system, However, the A77 is likely a good indication of what Nikon is cooking up for a D300s replacement
__________________
Gear, New and Old! RAW Club Member
Wanted: 5D Mark III, Sigma 35mm f/1.4, Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 OS
Deviantart
Flickr (This is where my good stuff is!)

Last edited by KenjiS : 19th of September 2011 (Mon) at 18:46.
KenjiS is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3295
dgrPhotos
Cream of the Crop
 
dgrPhotos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 7,080
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by monk3y View Post
Did you receive your D7000 MKIII already?
lol...It's supposed to come tomorrow.
__________________
CaNikon or Bust
dgrPhotos is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3296
dgrPhotos
Cream of the Crop
 
dgrPhotos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 7,080
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

I'm an ex-7D owner as well. Couple that with the 24-70L and I couldn't wait to make the switch to Nikon.
__________________
CaNikon or Bust
dgrPhotos is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3297
dgrPhotos
Cream of the Crop
 
dgrPhotos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 7,080
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KenjiS View Post
The closest camera to what i really want is the A77, But I am not going with a Sony system, However, the A77 is likely a good indication of what Nikon is cooking up for a D300s replacement
That's a lot of pixels for a small sensor. I need to be able to see and edit the raw files for myself. Even the D3x at 24MP is only designed to go up to ISO 1600. What happens when you cut the sensor in half? Hopefully the tech has overcome some of the physics problems involved.


Ahhhh...triple post....my bad.
__________________
CaNikon or Bust
dgrPhotos is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3298
monk3y
Totally Saturated
 
monk3y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of Short Skirts and Anime Fantasies
Posts: 46,067
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TMR Design View Post
True. Before I bought one I asked a few people I knew that were shooting with it and getting absolutely beautiful results. I got great feedback.

When I got the camera I was excited because it had the new camera feel and smell and by the second day I started to realize that I wasn't liking it. I do two shoots with it and while the images were ok I wasn't excited about performance and I quickly saw that I was having the low ISO noise issue.
yeah and I bet people who loves it are saying you guys who don't love it probably don't know how to use the camera properly


Quote:
Originally Posted by dgrPhotos View Post
lol...It's supposed to come tomorrow.
nice...

Quote:
Originally Posted by dgrPhotos View Post
I'm an ex-7D owner as well. Couple that with the 24-70L and I couldn't wait to make the switch to Nikon.
glad I did not buy the 7D then when I switched I was looking at the 7D, 5DMKII(too expensive) and D700. and the price difference between the 7D and D700 back then was like $200-$300 here where I am now the difference is almost $1000
__________________
www.monk3y.com | My GEAR
monk3y is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3299
tim
Light Bringer
 
tim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 49,072
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TMR Design View Post
True. Before I bought one I asked a few people I knew that were shooting with it and getting absolutely beautiful results. I got great feedback.

When I got the camera I was excited because it had the new camera feel and smell and by the second day I started to realize that I wasn't liking it. I do two shoots with it and while the images were ok I wasn't excited about performance and I quickly saw that I was having the low ISO noise issue.
Low ISO noise issues looking at images at 100% in photoshop, or on a 8x12" print? Most of the time it's pixel peepers that had problems.

I found the image quality fine from ISO100 - ISO20K, when judged by prints. This is assuming the shot in question was in focus...
tim is offline  
Old 19th of September 2011 (Mon)   #3300
TMR Design
Cream of the Crop
 
TMR Design's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Huntington Station, NY
Posts: 23,878
Default Re: Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! (II)

I saw it on screen. I'm sure it wouldn't reveal itself in print but I can't fall back on that. These days many clients are viewing on screen and never going to print.

I'm only a pixel peeper when I see a problem so it has nothing to do with sitting at the computer and viewing at 100% for the sake of pixel peeping, but I do retouch at 100% and when it stares you in the face and gets in the way of retouching then it's an issue.

We can make excuses or label each other pixel peepers but the reality is that my Nikon D700 doesn't have noise issues under the same conditions, and the 7D was hideous by comparison. I didn't need to pixel peep to see that and once I was at 100% it was disturbing to look at.

Poor transitions and noise make for a murky image and poor microcontrast. If it's fine for some, that's cool. Not for me, thanks.
__________________
Please call me Robert or Rob, not TMR
Gear List & Feedback | The Lighting Academy

"Art is the elimination of the unnecessary." - Pablo Picasso
TMR Design is offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Got a Nikon? Share your thoughts and photos here or ask a question! In2Photos General Photography Talk 10021 27th of January 2011 (Thu) 13:20


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:25.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
This forum is not affiliated with Canon in any way and is run as a free user helpsite by Pekka Saarinen, Helsinki Finland. You will need to register in order to be able to post messages. Cookies are required for registering and posting. HTML in messages is not allowed, plain website addresses are automatically made active by the board.