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FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Macro Talk
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John_B
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Oct 17, 2008 07:07 |  #16

Ballen Photo,
Thanks, glad you liked it :)

Warl0rd,
Yes DOF is shallow with macro and gets even shallower with more magnification and so does working distance.

I agree with macro junkie, a set of Kenko tubes (68mm) will give you 2:1 magnification (with the Canon 100mm f/2.8 lens) with no reduction in sharpness (unlike a filter or TC). In my opinion its the best low cost way to achieve more magnification. :)

As for macro filters I haven't used them since my film days and currently don't have or recommend them (or want them), so sorry as I can't add that. :)


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Oct 23, 2008 23:46 |  #17

this is a very good thread bw!


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airdima
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Dec 28, 2008 11:21 |  #18

very useful and covers all of the options i currently have in mind with my 100mm macro. thanks for sharing!


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El_Coyote
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Jan 29, 2009 08:51 |  #19

This is great, I admit i almost fell off my chair when i saw the MP-E with a 2XTC where the 5 didnt even fit in the frame.
Awesome thread mate :)


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John_B
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Jan 29, 2009 18:52 |  #20

Thanks,
Glad you liked it :)


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nuffi
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Aug 26, 2009 15:18 |  #21

So... It looks like the most macro was the MP-E at 5x with the 2x converter.

How far away from the subject were you?


A very close second was the 2x TC + 68mm tubes + 100mm macro + 50mm reversed. The two shots look very very different in terms of detail though; one the black is very saturated and the other you can see a lot of extra scuffing. Was that because of the lights, the exposure, some other environmental reasons or was that just a good example of the differences in the results you can expect?

If end result detail was all that mattered (you were taking something intricate that you needed to blow up to A3 for example) which rig would you want?




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John_B
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Aug 26, 2009 16:32 |  #22

nuffi,
These were just to show the magnification not the quality. They were shot at different times so there may be some variance between them all.
The working room was almost impossible to get light to with the 2x TC + 68mm +100mm +reversed 50mm but figured I would at least try to compare the magnification.

In the end I would want my MP-E 65mm alone as 5 x life size is usually more then enough. :)


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Oct 08, 2009 18:07 |  #23

Hey thanks for this i would like to add that a reversed ultra wide angle lens will get very close, i will post some results .
Haven't seen anyone recommend it around here which i find strange but if you can a 4 dollar reversing ring off ebay and a wide angle is a lot of fun.
On my 1.6x crop sensor T1i i only get about 2.5mm in view with 68mm of extension and 4mm in view without them.
(In brian petersons book he says you get about 4x magnification with an ultra wide angle).
Very cool very shallow depth of field though.




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Oct 20, 2009 12:41 |  #24

Incredibly helpful!




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Oct 20, 2009 19:50 |  #25

great one!! bookmarked and subbed! just a quicky dumb question, mp-e65 is for macro only? you cant use it in portraits?


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Oct 20, 2009 19:53 |  #26

yeow_Z wrote in post #8861847 (external link)
great one!! bookmarked and subbed! just a quicky dumb question, mp-e65 is for macro only? you cant use it in portraits?

It does great bug portraits. :)

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Oct 20, 2009 19:58 |  #27

^lol. sorry! i mean, people, cars, etc. my bad..


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Oct 20, 2009 20:01 |  #28

yeow_Z wrote in post #8861885external link
^lol. sorry! i mean, people, cars, etc. my bad..

Not unless they have a very very tiny head. The MPE-65 starts at 1:1 and zooms in from there.


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Apr 13, 2010 11:38 |  #29

Great thread. Hoping to pick up a 100 soon. Guess I'll need the Kenko tubes next. What can I sell, what can I sell?


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Nov 02, 2011 08:02 |  #30

Macro Variations

I would like to create a filter macro to activate the 500 hz crystal filter in my TS-480.

#
#
# RADIO-CONTROL
#
#--

center-on 1500

Set button-select Nar 1 //500hz filter

I couldnt seem to get this to work. I must be missing something in the syntax. Does anybody know if this can be done and what the proper syntax would be?

Thanks,

Steve - N9SB




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