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Nov 03, 2011 19:37 |  #1

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Nov 03, 2011 19:40 |  #2

Awesome pic.


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Nov 03, 2011 19:40 |  #3

The story behind this shot: I was walking through Rock Creek National Park and just happened upon the cabin, nothing new. I've been past it many times in the past and saw the fall colors and kinda did a what they heck.. kind of thing in my mind. as it turned out, this shot has gotten some decent view time across various sites.


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Nov 03, 2011 20:17 as a reply to ChristopherJ1968's post |  #4

It's probably more a matter of personal taste but to me, the image has too much yellow in it and could stand some white balance adjustment. By doing that, you'll bring out the grays in the wood and the green moss on the roof.


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Nov 03, 2011 20:46 |  #5

I agree with 'navydoc". The white balance seems to be slightly off with too much green. A bit of experimenting with the sliders in RAW (I hope you shot RAW) might make it look more natural.
For the composition: the cabin is pretty central in the shot with a lot of uninteresting space in the foreground. A tighter crop of the top left two/thirds of the shot might give a more pleasing effect (You haven't IMAGE EDITING OK turned on, otherwise I could have shown you what I mean).


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Nov 03, 2011 21:03 |  #6

Like the prior two, it might be interesting to see what some adjustments could do. It might help and then again it might not. I did feel that the cabin seemed slightly out of focus. The Efix shows that the focus was 1.22 m which would account for that.

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Nov 03, 2011 21:15 as a reply to Hawk's Feather's post |  #7

I am with Jerry, this image is out of focus. Sometimes that works, but I do not see it working here.
I also think there is "too much" in this image. Try to crop it some and maybe you can sharpen it some. Then some of the wb correction.


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Nov 03, 2011 22:46 |  #8

whit balance is off i think. its not workin for me. bring the yerllows down a bit


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Nov 04, 2011 04:35 |  #9

I think this could be a really nice pic, but it needs some PP time. Definitely worth working with, and I would start with white balance to get rid of the green bias.




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Nov 04, 2011 05:45 |  #10

Yes, yellow and green is quite overwhelming to me on this one, but the place looks magical, I hope you tried different angles and compositions, you walked around the hut and did at least 50 shots :) I would retouch label on the foot of the tree.




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Nov 04, 2011 06:44 as a reply to horsik's post |  #11

Not really working for me. I agree about the white balance issue, and the subject is just much too centered IMO. It also has that "I was there" kind of feel to it...not a whole lot going on, so to speak.


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Nov 04, 2011 09:52 as a reply to argyle's post |  #12

I would have stepped in enough to keep the tree branch from obscurring the chimney. If you don't have any other versions, cropping as others have suggested woudl help.


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Nov 04, 2011 12:43 |  #13

I would definately crop out the bottom and right and side between a 1/4 to 1/3 to really put the focus of the picture on the cabin and tree. the lower and right side are just dead space to me. Otherwise I really like it.


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Nov 04, 2011 14:50 |  #14

Perhaps try these couple of things and see if they make it better:
1) Tone down the warm color a tad
2) Give a slight vignette near the 4 edges


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Nov 04, 2011 15:53 |  #15

Just so you know, I shoot always in cloudy WB because I wish to have colorful prints. I have found that cloudy gives my better colors.

as for the post processing, I change ALWAYS my shots from RGB to Lab. then I go to layers, select the A layer and go to image/adjustments and move the right slider to any given number from 255 down to 200, and the left slider the number i selected say 35 (depends on the shot) I then go to B channel or layer and image/adjustments and do the same for channel B. Why? because adjusting color in RGB inherently messes up the shots contrast and lighting. so moving the shot into lab mode separates my luminosity channel from my color channels A/B and allows me to tinker with the shot.

as for the composition: I wanted that red branch in the way as it added a different color away from the HUGE swath of yellow and green. my only caveat to the shot but no biggie is, I didn't have a foreground item of interest to lead my viewers eyes in this shot but in this case, "does that actually matter here?"

my camera settings, I have a link in my signature area of a video from bryan peterson, a great popular photographer who shows us landscape photographers how to "preset" our cameras from optimum/acceptable focus from foreground to background . I used F22, and preset my focus for 3ft/1m depending on if my lens doesn't have a 3ft setting on it.

I believe this shot appears out of focus on the cabin due to Jpeg compression, I've gone back to verify the shot in TIF format and it was exceptionally clear. but I know shots lose alot of quality when we decrease their size, which, in this case was, Bicubic sharper (best for reduction)

I'll reopen the RAW and do less color work but keep the WB as is and probably should be ok overall let me work on it and I'll post the new version soon.


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