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Apr 22, 2012 14:57 |  #1

I currently have the 60mm 2.8 Macro lens and I am looking for more magnification. ATM I can not afford the MP-E 65mm so I am looking to get more magnification from the lens I already have. What would be my best option?
I am also thinking about getting a reverse mounting ring for my 50mm 1.8 but that just scares me. I am afraid the ring will get stuck or something like that and then I am in more trouble, haha. Thoughts?


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Apr 24, 2012 16:51 |  #2

No help? Really? Shoot....


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Apr 24, 2012 16:54 |  #3

I use Kenko, been happy for a long time.




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Apr 25, 2012 06:49 |  #4

why pay Kenko prices ? cheapo alternatives of ebay are just as Good at less than half the cost. At the end of the day there is nothing complicated about the tubes and no integral optics to affect IQ. The choice is really manual or automatic. Manual ones are dirt cheap but then you have no AF, IS or Aperture control of the lens. Difference with the automatic ones is they ensure the camera contacts are linked through the tube to the lens contacts so it doesn't really make sense why such a big difference in cost between the two types.


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Apr 25, 2012 08:11 |  #5

Get the reversal ring, you shouldn't have any more trouble with that then any other mount. The Raynox will work pretty well on a 60mm macro but it is an 8X diopter and brings you in so close that a macro focus slider is almost a necessity. Franky if you only have money for one go with the tubes. You can start with the short tube and work your way up as you get used to them. Keep in mind that you will lose light with tubes.


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Apr 25, 2012 08:28 |  #6

I don't think a 50mm reversed will give you more magnification. So, unless you have a wider angle lens to reverse, then extension tubes are your best bet. And I would prefer to use AF extension tubes over a reverse ring anyway so that you have aperture control.

Reverse rings are a great way to break into macro since they're cheap, but the pain of controlling aperture makes them frustrating for a long-term solution. But I wouldn't be too concerned about using a reverse ring. Even if it does get stuck on the lens, it's still 100% usable, you can still turn it around and mount it on the camera normally. But I used them for a while, and never had an issue.


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Apr 25, 2012 09:44 |  #7

Awesome, thanks everybody! I prefer the Kenko ones since I don't have to manually set everything. When taking pictures of insects that move around I won't have the time to be adjusting settings before taking more pics.
Looks like I will order my extension tubes ASAP so I can practice w/ them.


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Apr 26, 2012 08:24 |  #8

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Awesome, thanks everybody! I prefer the Kenko ones since I don't have to manually set everything. When taking pictures of insects that move around I won't have the time to be adjusting settings before taking more pics.
Looks like I will order my extension tubes ASAP so I can practice w/ them.

there are much cheaper alternatives to Kenko that do everything automatically, these are what I got and they are well built and work well http://www.ebay.co.uk ..._trksid=p3984.m1497​.l2649external link

These are on the UK ebay but I am sure that they or similar are available on the international Ebay sites.

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Apr 28, 2012 19:23 |  #9

birderman wrote in post #14331870external link
there are much cheaper alternatives to Kenko that do everything automatically, these are what I got and they are well built and work well http://www.ebay.co.uk ..._trksid=p3984.m1497​.l2649external link

These are on the UK ebay but I am sure that they or similar are available on the international Ebay sites.

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Thanks, I will check to see if there any cheaper ones. I just worry something will be faulty w/ the contacts and it messes up my camera or something, haha. I just trust a known name I guess.


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Apr 28, 2012 19:35 as a reply to jjj5278's post |  #10

I love my Raynox. 1st, I reversed my 50mm. While I got some good shots, it was definitely a bit of a pain. I then ordered some extension tubes through Adorama that supposedly had all the connections, but they didn't work very well. Especially when they were stacked. I returned them and got a Raynox DCR 150 & couldn't be happier. It's so much easier to use than reversing or using tubes. I mostly use it on my 55-250 IS which gives me a lot of versatility. I'm definitely still a beginner with macro, but I've gotten some shots I'm very happy with.

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Apr 28, 2012 19:42 |  #11

Those are some great shots. I was thinking of pairing either extension tubes or the Raynox w/ my 60mm Macro lens. I get decent macro shots now, but just want to get closer, and pick up the details in compound eyes, etc. The lighting in your shots is awesome, I need to get bright shots like that!!


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Apr 29, 2012 05:59 |  #12

It is worth considering buying better built extension tubes. There are issues with baffling, if the light bounces about down the tubes it creates all sorts of problems. Kenko ones have good baffling, cheaper ones don't but Kenko tubes are not always a good fit. Also the method of locking is flimsy and it is quite easy to loosen a ring. Which at best turns off the auto functions at worst your lens can fall off.

It is worth doing proper research into even cheap macro options as they can end up costing more in the long run.


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Apr 29, 2012 18:06 |  #13

Oh man, so Kenko's are no good for the 60mm macro lens? What else should/could I try so I can more detail in my macro shots?


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Apr 30, 2012 06:13 |  #14

I wouldn't say Kenko or tubes in general are no good, just that you do need to be aware of what you are getting for your money. Canon extension tubes cost more money but they are very probably (I don't know for certain) a firmer fit and the locking mechanism is also in all probability better. Also there may well be another extension tube manufacturer that makes a better product. It may even be cheaper than Kenko. But you want to check them out very carefully. Just picking a cheaper option on the say so of one or two people is not something you want to do as there are important things to consider that some people may or may not have considered when offering there advise.

I have a set of Kenko tubes and they are a permanent fixture on my camera while I am on a macro shoot. But I know that the lock is easy to knock off by accident and I have got used to the loose fitting joints moving about.


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Apr 30, 2012 19:10 |  #15

Thanks for the info! I'll look into some Canon ones, maybe I can find some used ones.


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