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May 04, 2012 12:59 |  #7591

Hi Tiff, good to see you back.


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May 04, 2012 15:26 |  #7593

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Hey Tiffany:

I have CS5. If I want to get a plugin to make my skin/eye/teeth processing simpler, and want to spend ~$50, what would you suggest?

Portrait professional?
MCP eye doctor?

others?

(Other experts can chime in as well)

I use Portrait Professional 10. I love it. I use it on number 3 setting of 10 and it does an amazing job. I dialed back some things and dialed up the others. Anything needing more attention I will use healing or clone brush. Clients love the way their skin looks and have been accused of too much skin work by the POTN.....It's just the way I do it....I have tested the waters with our senior reps. Not using PP10 on some images and using it with others. They always prefer when I use it. Their parents do too. They are who I listen to although I respect the POTN's opinion....I just don't base my business decisions on it.


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May 04, 2012 16:12 |  #7594

Craig, I use PP10 as well, I think it does the best job of the boxed skin programs that I've tried (Portraiture, onOne). It takes a little longer to set the mask at the beginning, but then it's perfect, it is does a better job of evening out the skin tone. With Protraiture and onOne I usually had to fix the masks anyway. The only thing I don't like is that if you want to change something, you have to repeat the initial mask selection.


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May 04, 2012 16:36 |  #7595

Dave Jr wrote in post #14380343external link
Craig, I use PP10 as well, I think it does the best job of the boxed skin programs that I've tried (Portraiture, onOne). It takes a little longer to set the mask at the beginning, but then it's perfect, it is does a better job of evening out the skin tone. With Protraiture and onOne I usually had to fix the masks anyway. The only thing I don't like is that if you want to change something, you have to repeat the initial mask selection.

Guess I don't know what you mean by "change something". I mask once and then use the controls on left to adjust sliders if ever needed. It does take time to do the initial mask....but I have gotten blazing fast at it compared to where I was at the beginning. lol. It takes time after the initial work it does to select the rest of the skin other than face and neck, but it is worth it to even skin tones.


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May 04, 2012 16:53 as a reply to cbknight's post |  #7596

Portraiture is working for me at about 60-65%. I dont use the presets at all. Im moving the boxes and slider to get an individual look for each person and brushing it in at no more that 65%. Im getting these results

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May 04, 2012 16:54 |  #7597

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I use Portrait Professional 10. I love it. I use it on number 3 setting of 10 and it does an amazing job. I dialed back some things and dialed up the others. Anything needing more attention I will use healing or clone brush. Clients love the way their skin looks and have been accused of too much skin work by the POTN.....It's just the way I do it....I have tested the waters with our senior reps. Not using PP10 on some images and using it with others. They always prefer when I use it. Their parents do too. They are who I listen to although I respect the POTN's opinion....I just don't base my business decisions on it.

Thanks! I will give it a whirl....


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May 04, 2012 17:01 |  #7598

cbknight wrote in post #14380454external link
Guess I don't know what you mean by "change something". I mask once and then use the controls on left to adjust sliders if ever needed. It does take time to do the initial mask....but I have gotten blazing fast at it compared to where I was at the beginning. lol. It takes time after the initial work it does to select the rest of the skin other than face and neck, but it is worth it to even skin tones.

I just mean that once you save it back to CS5, if you messed something up and want to change it (skin tone, for example), you have to start over in PP10. It would be nice if the mask could be saved. I always create a dup layer on CS5 that I use for PP10, so I can dial down the opacity, etc...but I wish you could just go back and tweak the settings.


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May 04, 2012 17:24 |  #7599

shankarhokie wrote in post #14379285external link
Hey Tiffany:

I have CS5. If I want to get a plugin to make my skin/eye/teeth processing simpler, and want to spend ~$50, what would you suggest?

Portrait professional?
MCP eye doctor?

others?

(Other experts can chime in as well)

Skin isn't that hard to edit, honestly just leave in natural and heal brush out pimples / scares.
If absolutely need something try portraiture, it can be over done (but imo, its better then PP)
only you can decide tho. PP tends to give the doll effect, (i know i know some people say you have to dial it in right, but really it still gives the doll effect, saturated eyes, super white eyes and teeth, plastic skin. its great! )

for me one every day joe client shoots
my work flow
1. get it right in camera
2. basic changes if i got it wrong in camera in lightroom, apply white balance / custom profile tweaks
3a. send it to photoshop, (if skin needs help)
3b. if few pimples just use lr heal brush
4. in photoshop use healing brush
5. if lighting is crappy as a result of not getting it right in the first place, run portraiture,
6. portraiture set up to retain details but smooth transitions in tones, aka quick and easy dodge and burn.
7. eyes -> simple curve or lightroom brush adjustment
8. finishing touches, either a black and white with Nik, or a modified action i made for the way i like editing.

actions and presets are great! just running it out of the box aren't so great, modify them to your liking :)

peoples skin is naturally smooth, many out of the box solutions just smooth it unnaturally and you get the Mattel effect
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I think both offer a free trial, try them both and see

I would personally stay away from PP, I don't like to call anyone out on it b/c honestly i don't care if they use it, if its what their clients like :S


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May 04, 2012 18:59 |  #7600

shankarhokie wrote in post #14379270external link
You are just too mean..

I thought about teasing her about the same thing but then thought I better not. :D


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May 04, 2012 19:27 as a reply to Dave Jr's post |  #7601

cbknight wrote in post #14377124external link
1st seems slightly underexposed to me. Great colors.

Maybe is a touch. I thought it when I was posting it but I knew she wanted to look more tan and that's an easy way to do it.

GerryDavid wrote in post #14378280external link
Interesting background, did you attach sequins to the wall or is it a backdrop? But then again the baseboard is in focus, so im thinking its either photoshop or a drop, hmm.


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I think it is the same Denny backdrop that Mike uses, or it could be the Purple/pink sequin drop from JoAnn she had used earler

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shankarhokie wrote in post #14379285external link
Hey Tiffany:

I have CS5. If I want to get a plugin to make my skin/eye/teeth processing simpler, and want to spend ~$50, what would you suggest?

Portrait professional?
MCP eye doctor?

others?

(Other experts can chime in as well)

I heart the mcp eye doctor. Her skin retouching action isn't too bad either...portraiture just runs faster.

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Chet and Tiffy have a love hate relationship

Chet loves tiff and tiffy hates chet :lol::lol::lol:

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May 04, 2012 19:27 |  #7602

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It's part of the studio. Just plain brick paneling from menards. I slapped a bunch of spackle on it to give it some texture, painted it white, and used a dremel tool to bring up the texture on the brick "edges." It was a cheap and easy drop and a great way to cover up the hole from where the window used to be in the studio wall. :lol:

In that case, nice work. Turned out very convincing.


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May 04, 2012 21:09 |  #7603

Thought I'd finally contribute one after all the lurking I've been doing! This one was from earlier today, one texture layer in PS, using the shades as a theme to carry through with the rest of her package. Used this as a "teaser" pic on her FB page, seems to be a hit with her and her mom at least.

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May 04, 2012 23:37 |  #7604

Dave Jr wrote in post #14380546external link
I just mean that once you save it back to CS5, if you messed something up and want to change it (skin tone, for example), you have to start over in PP10. It would be nice if the mask could be saved. I always create a dup layer on CS5 that I use for PP10, so I can dial down the opacity, etc...but I wish you could just go back and tweak the settings.

Gotcha. I don't use photoshop or as a plugin so that's where you lost me. I run it and save it as a separate tiff then open it in my editing program. Probably a lot slower process than yours. It does give me the option to restart an edit without remasking I guess.


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May 05, 2012 06:33 |  #7605

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Welcome back! Great sets you posted, you've been busy!




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