Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Pets Talk
Thread started 01 Feb 2011 (Tuesday) 17:09
Prev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

Photographing Black dogs (and cats)

 
Jason ­ L
Member
Jason L's Avatar
173 posts

Joined Oct 2009

North Bay, ON. Canada
MORE INFO

If you are shooting a black dog outdoors, just meter off the blue sky. I have two black labs and this has always worked well for me, especially in the winter.

Aug 08, 2011 22:06

My Websiteexternal link
Gear and Feedback

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)
mjordan
Goldmember
mjordan's Avatar
1,338 posts

Joined Apr 2002

Hillsboro, OR
MORE INFO

Dark and black dogs can be a real challenge. When I first started shooting black dogs, I kept trying to add more light thinking that would help, but usually all I got was a brighter black blob. :D Then I realized that black hair (or fur depending on the dog) is no different than shooting someone in a black tux or a dark skinned person. As it was mentioned earlier in this thread, it's not only exposure control but also light placement.

Black absorbs light, so you have to skim light across it to get detail to show up. Once I started putting my lights off to the side, I started getting a lot more detail out of the black haired dogs I was shooting.

IMAGE: http://www.sitnprettyphoto.com/display/dyna/dyna4307.jpg

IMAGE: http://www.sitnprettyphoto.com/display/alister/alister3448.jpg

Even with light colored objects in the scene as well:
IMAGE: http://www.sitnprettyphoto.com/display/alister/alisterfrank3378.jpg

IMAGE: http://www.sitnprettyphoto.com/display/alister/frank3384.jpg

With all of these I have a light at the camera position and one that is equal in strength angled to skim across the hair to provide detail. Outdoors, I try to get the sun light angled the same way, so that it skims across the dog, but with active dogs, I don't always have that choice, so I shoot for the shadows and let the highlights (background) do what it will and then I'll adjust if I can in Photoshop. This is why I always shoot in raw, so I have as much latitude as I can get. It can still be a challenge outdoors though if you are shooting active dogs and not posing them like indoors.

Mike
Dec 04, 2011 00:39

Hillsboro, OR
Canon 1DMKII and lots of "L"
http://www.sitnprettyp​hoto.comexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
neil_r
Cream of the Proverbial Crop
Landscape and Cityscape Photographer 2006
neil_r's Avatar
18,065 posts

Joined Jan 2003

The middle of the UK
MORE INFO

The shadow / highlight tool in PS can be a real friend here. Turn the image into a smart object first as that will let you set the dynamic range for the adjustment.

Dec 04, 2011 00:47

Neil - © NHR Photography
Commercial Siteexternal link - Video Siteexternal link - Blog -external linkGear List There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. ~ Ansel Adams

LOG IN TO REPLY
windpig
Chopped liver
windpig's Avatar
12,565 posts

Joined Dec 2008

Just South of Ballard
MORE INFO

Nice images Mike

What you're saying fell on deaf ears early on in this thread.
Lighting black objects and skin and lighting white objects and skin require different methods. It's another lighting scenario that is so well covered in Light; Science and Magic.

Dec 04, 2011 07:43

Would you like to buy a vowel?
Go ahead, spin the wheel.

LOG IN TO REPLY
AntonLargiader
Goldmember
AntonLargiader's Avatar
1,821 posts

Joined Oct 2010

Charlottesville, VA
MORE INFO

Very nice shots. The third one is great!

Seems to me those dogs aren't really black. There is a lot of light-colored hair in there and the hair doesn't seem very reflective. Still, I'm certainly not disagreeing with the approach. In fact, I'll try to take some shots of one of our cats using light from different angles and post comparisons.

Dec 04, 2011 08:00

T2i . 18-55 IS . 70-300 IS USM . 70-200 2.8L IS . 28mm 1.8 . 100 Macro . 430EX II . TT1/TT5 . Bogen/Manfrotto 3021 w/3265 ball-mount

LOG IN TO REPLY
mjordan
Goldmember
mjordan's Avatar
1,338 posts

Joined Apr 2002

Hillsboro, OR
MORE INFO

Windpig, Ive had that book for a lot of years and it does have some great information in it. I used it a lot when I started shooting glass a lot to work on controlling the reflections and hot spots.

Anton, yes, they have a grayish undercoat that shows through. It's actually part of their breeding so they would blend in with the Belgium fog (they are Belgium cattle herding dogs and were used a lot in WWI and WWII because they could sneak through enemy lines so well).

Thanks

Mike

Dec 04, 2011 15:13

Hillsboro, OR
Canon 1DMKII and lots of "L"
http://www.sitnprettyp​hoto.comexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
Two ­ rivers
Member
68 posts
Joined Aug 2010

Western Australia
MORE INFO

I have a black dog and most of the time I take one, adjust, take another etc etc.

I never use the flash on her, makes her look terrible. I hate the flash on anything.

These two were taken outside, with the afternoon sun behind me.

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.
Feb 15, 2012 00:48 as a reply to mjordan's post 2 months earlier.

Canon 550D with twin lens set and 60mm macro

LOG IN TO REPLY
StinkyBunny
Member
StinkyBunny's Avatar
62 posts

Joined Feb 2012

Maryland
MORE INFO

This is what happens with flash on a wet Lab, lol.

IMAGE: http://www.freakyshiat.com/upload/files/312/katie.jpg
Feb 19, 2012 17:44 as a reply to Two rivers's post 4 days earlier.



LOG IN TO REPLY
JReichert
Member
JReichert's Avatar
52 posts

Joined Jun 2011

Southwest Michigan
MORE INFO

Black pets . . . that really is a challenge.

Here's my attemptexternal link with a black lab in the snow. Not blowing out his surroundings were tricky indeed!

Apr 30, 2012 09:31

Joanna Reichert
http://joannareichertp​hotography.wordpress.c​omexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
smorris985
Junior Member
29 posts
Joined Apr 2012
MORE INFO

This one attempt with my black dog. I find that my camera has trouble focusing on her in low light, whereas it doesn't struggle at all with my golden. I try to focus on her eye, or her grey, and that seems to work. Any advice on that?

IMAGE: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JDKl_gxqxTM/TzxxJKfSBjI/AAAAAAAAADw/1wAH9WjOWjA/s640/IMG_1741.jpg
May 04, 2012 16:07



LOG IN TO REPLY
Jason ­ L
Member
Jason L's Avatar
173 posts

Joined Oct 2009

North Bay, ON. Canada
MORE INFO

^^manual focus or keep doing what you are doing. The AF system needs contrast to focus, which there is very little of on a black dog. I usually just focus on the eyes since that is what you want to focus on anyways.

May 04, 2012 19:09

My Websiteexternal link
Gear and Feedback

LOG IN TO REPLY
Shutterwolf
Senior Member
Shutterwolf's Avatar
523 posts

Joined Apr 2012

California
MORE INFO
banned

I find that on a bright day, shooting in a shaded area seems to work. This isnt the greatest shot, but the color and detail of my dog is pretty good. I have decided that my next dog will be a golden retriever or a yellow lab though, because it really does suck trying to get a good shot of a black/white dog.

(before anyone says anything, I'm half teasing. I want a golden retriever for many good reasons, that just happens to fit in with it)

IMAGE NOT FOUND IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net ...24_61815_1777087017​_n.jpg (external link)
HTTP response: 400 | MIME changed to 'text/html'
May 17, 2012 00:19

Josh
https://www.facebook.c​om/ShutterwolfPhotogra​phyexternal link
60D, 550EX, Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 Mark II, Canon 28-135mm IS, 18-55(old), Rebel Xti/400D (for sale)

LOG IN TO REPLY
FreeSoul1987
Member
210 posts
Joined Jul 2012

Southern Indiana
MORE INFO

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.
Dog: 1/250 sec at 5/9.0
ISO 200
Flash: Wireless Trigger, Speedlite 430EX II

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.
Cat: 1/50 sec at f/6.3
ISO 1600
Speedlite 430EX II on camera

Still improving but both have good detail of the black, just ignore the ugly background in the second photo.
Dec 09, 2012 11:33

*Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*
www.FreeSoulPhotograph​y.smugmug.comexternal link
Gear: Canon T2i, 430EX II flash, Tamron 18-270mm VC PZD II, Canon 18-55mm lens, Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II lens

LOG IN TO REPLY
tdierikx
Member
76 posts
Joined Apr 2012

Sydney, Australia
MORE INFO

This is probably the best shot of my neighbour's dog I've ever managed... gotta love great sunshine... *grin*

IMAGE: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/tdierikx/Tapua%20Cyclone%20Candyman%20-%20Sammy/27-12-2012-gibsons048.jpg

T.
Dec 31, 2012 01:45



LOG IN TO REPLY
Meanderthal
Senior Member
Meanderthal's Avatar
532 posts

Joined Aug 2009

Canada, btw Ottawa-Toronto
MORE INFO

Nice, Erik (?), the black coat just shines. You picked the direction of the sun just right. Happy dog too.

The ways to photograph black dogs and cats are bound only by our imagination, and the quality of the results are matter of personal taste. Here's an example of a black dog in snow. It was an unusually warm, foggy winter morning. Light had no direction, and contrast was minimal. I decided to try a shot of little Scarlett sitting on snow, with a foggy forest background. Catchlights in eyes from external flash on camera hotshoe in ETTL mode, flash exposure compensation around -1.5. RAW capture, manual exposure, aperture to blur the background somewhat, comfortable ISO. Took test shots of setting at various shutter speeds (not higher than camera sync speed, of course) until the snow just started to blow out by over-exposure. Sat the dog prettily and took a few shots. The first image below is straight from camera. Yechhh. But the pose was nice, so I cropped and fooled around with it in Photoshop, got the second image below. No directionality in the light, but I rather like it: Scarlett looks good.

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.
Jan 31, 2013 18:37

http://spitzhaven.zenf​olio.com/external linkPhoto galleryexternal link

LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as registered member)

20,793 views & 1 like for this thread
Photographing Black dogs (and cats)
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Pets Talk

NOT A MEMBER YET? CLICK HERE TO REGISTER TO THE FORUMS
Registered members get all the features: search, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, own reviews...




Send feedback to staff    •   Jump to forum...    •   Rules    •   Index    •   New posts    •   RTAT    •   'Best of'    •   Gallery    •   Gear    •   Reviews    •   Polls

COOKIES DISCLAIMER: By using this site you agree that some cookies will be stored on your browser. For unlogged users we store one session id cookie. For registered members we store (in addition to login session cookie) only cookies that are essential for required functionality. We do not store any personal tracking data in cookies or other browsers' data storage methods.

POWERED BY AMASS 1.33version 1.33
made in Finland
by Pekka Saarinen
for photography-on-the.net
Spent 0.00187 for 6 database queries.
PAGE COMPLETED IN 0.04s
Latest registered member is Ethnoe
598 guests, 562 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 5175, that happened on Jun 16, 2015