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Photographing Black dogs (and cats)

 
Jason ­ L
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Aug 08, 2011 22:06 |  #31

If you are shooting a black dog outdoors, just meter off the blue sky. I have two black labs and this has always worked well for me, especially in the winter.


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Dec 04, 2011 00:39 |  #32

Dark and black dogs can be a real challenge. When I first started shooting black dogs, I kept trying to add more light thinking that would help, but usually all I got was a brighter black blob. :D Then I realized that black hair (or fur depending on the dog) is no different than shooting someone in a black tux or a dark skinned person. As it was mentioned earlier in this thread, it's not only exposure control but also light placement.

Black absorbs light, so you have to skim light across it to get detail to show up. Once I started putting my lights off to the side, I started getting a lot more detail out of the black haired dogs I was shooting.

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With all of these I have a light at the camera position and one that is equal in strength angled to skim across the hair to provide detail. Outdoors, I try to get the sun light angled the same way, so that it skims across the dog, but with active dogs, I don't always have that choice, so I shoot for the shadows and let the highlights (background) do what it will and then I'll adjust if I can in Photoshop. This is why I always shoot in raw, so I have as much latitude as I can get. It can still be a challenge outdoors though if you are shooting active dogs and not posing them like indoors.

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Dec 04, 2011 00:47 |  #33

The shadow / highlight tool in PS can be a real friend here. Turn the image into a smart object first as that will let you set the dynamic range for the adjustment.


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Dec 04, 2011 07:43 |  #34

Nice images Mike

What you're saying fell on deaf ears early on in this thread.
Lighting black objects and skin and lighting white objects and skin require different methods. It's another lighting scenario that is so well covered in Light; Science and Magic.


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Dec 04, 2011 08:00 |  #35

Very nice shots. The third one is great!

Seems to me those dogs aren't really black. There is a lot of light-colored hair in there and the hair doesn't seem very reflective. Still, I'm certainly not disagreeing with the approach. In fact, I'll try to take some shots of one of our cats using light from different angles and post comparisons.


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Dec 04, 2011 15:13 |  #36

Windpig, Ive had that book for a lot of years and it does have some great information in it. I used it a lot when I started shooting glass a lot to work on controlling the reflections and hot spots.

Anton, yes, they have a grayish undercoat that shows through. It's actually part of their breeding so they would blend in with the Belgium fog (they are Belgium cattle herding dogs and were used a lot in WWI and WWII because they could sneak through enemy lines so well).

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Feb 15, 2012 00:48 as a reply to mjordan's post |  #37

I have a black dog and most of the time I take one, adjust, take another etc etc.

I never use the flash on her, makes her look terrible. I hate the flash on anything.

These two were taken outside, with the afternoon sun behind me.

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Feb 19, 2012 17:44 as a reply to Two rivers's post |  #38

This is what happens with flash on a wet Lab, lol.

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Apr 30, 2012 09:31 |  #39

Black pets . . . that really is a challenge.

Here's my attemptexternal link with a black lab in the snow. Not blowing out his surroundings were tricky indeed!


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May 04, 2012 16:07 |  #40

This one attempt with my black dog. I find that my camera has trouble focusing on her in low light, whereas it doesn't struggle at all with my golden. I try to focus on her eye, or her grey, and that seems to work. Any advice on that?

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May 04, 2012 19:09 |  #41

^^manual focus or keep doing what you are doing. The AF system needs contrast to focus, which there is very little of on a black dog. I usually just focus on the eyes since that is what you want to focus on anyways.


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May 17, 2012 00:19 |  #42
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I find that on a bright day, shooting in a shaded area seems to work. This isnt the greatest shot, but the color and detail of my dog is pretty good. I have decided that my next dog will be a golden retriever or a yellow lab though, because it really does suck trying to get a good shot of a black/white dog.

(before anyone says anything, I'm half teasing. I want a golden retriever for many good reasons, that just happens to fit in with it)

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Dec 09, 2012 11:33 |  #43

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Cat: 1/50 sec at f/6.3
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Still improving but both have good detail of the black, just ignore the ugly background in the second photo.

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Dec 31, 2012 01:45 |  #44

This is probably the best shot of my neighbour's dog I've ever managed... gotta love great sunshine... *grin*

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Jan 31, 2013 18:37 |  #45

Nice, Erik (?), the black coat just shines. You picked the direction of the sun just right. Happy dog too.

The ways to photograph black dogs and cats are bound only by our imagination, and the quality of the results are matter of personal taste. Here's an example of a black dog in snow. It was an unusually warm, foggy winter morning. Light had no direction, and contrast was minimal. I decided to try a shot of little Scarlett sitting on snow, with a foggy forest background. Catchlights in eyes from external flash on camera hotshoe in ETTL mode, flash exposure compensation around -1.5. RAW capture, manual exposure, aperture to blur the background somewhat, comfortable ISO. Took test shots of setting at various shutter speeds (not higher than camera sync speed, of course) until the snow just started to blow out by over-exposure. Sat the dog prettily and took a few shots. The first image below is straight from camera. Yechhh. But the pose was nice, so I cropped and fooled around with it in Photoshop, got the second image below. No directionality in the light, but I rather like it: Scarlett looks good.

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