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Old 18th of May 2012 (Fri)   #16
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Would you agree that the samson is the best in that price range?
They are literally the only thing in that price range, just remember while they are a quite a few notches above consumer level audio quality they are several notches below professional durability.

Treat them with kid gloves and donít be tossing them into the Pelican case like my guys do and you will find them to be a good wireless starter kit.

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What boomed wireless microphone would work with the samson and my Tascam?
Just another thought, you might consider adding another Tascam to the mix and hold off on the wireless until your pockets are a bit fuller...

Heck you are already dropping audio from one Tascam into the timeline why not just make it two, that would give you four balanced XLR inputs to work with and then all you will need to do is add or rent microphones as the project demands and the budget allows.

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Until I was able to get a hold of a G2, I used 2 zoom h1s and it worked pretty well. One recorded ambient and the other i used for ambient.
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One recorded ambient and the other i used for ambient.
Ah the old double ambeint method of recording...

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Default Re: Wireless audio for 5d3.

Interesting thought Wayne.

So just add a mic to the Tascam and attach that whole setup to the person?
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So just add a mic to the Tascam and attach that whole setup to the person?
Exactly, while the Tascam is a few ounces heavier than a wireless transmitter it is not so heavy or bulky as to be objectionable.

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Exactly, while the Tascam is a few ounces heavier than a wireless transmitter it is not so heavy or bulky as to be objectionable.

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What mic would you recommend to use in this setup?

I like the sound of this...
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What mic would you recommend to use in this setup?

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Whats the application?

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Audio for interview.
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Audio for interview.
Standup or sitdown and how much can you budget for the devices and how will your video be presented, You-Tube Television etc?

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Youtube, corporate video etc.

Very low budget.
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audio technica pro88 is a decent kit at an extremely good price point. i don't like that they're vhf and use 9 volt batteries, but you're not going to find a better wireless kit for less than $150. if you go with them, make sure to pick the kit that comes with omni lavs. the narrower pickup of cardioid lavs is, in general, a PITA. also, you want to mic each person separately unless they're literally going to be on top of one another. you may want to consider two kits for two speakers.
two people = two mics unless you have someone with a shotgun on a fishpole working them. if you want even remotely decent sounding audio that's the only correct answer. this also means you will need a small mixer to control the levels of the two microphones and feed it into the camera.

another option is a hand held microphone, wired or wireless, and have one person hold it, sharing it with the other speaker. You see many news interviews done this way all the time. It would save you the cost of a second mic system. this really only works well in question&answer type situations, and with the person holding the mic (the interviewer) being somewhat knowledgable of how to work the mic between the two people.

without knowing exactly what kind of presentation you're doing its hard to be more specific
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Default Re: Wireless audio for 5d3.

I do not know what type of presentations I will be doing, that is the problem.

So I am trying to get a basic kit together that can get my foot in the door.
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Youtube, corporate video etc. Very low budget. I do not know what type of presentations I will be doing, that is the problem. So I am trying to get a basic kit together that can get my foot in the door.


Forgive me, but I have melded two of you posts to maintain continuity, being tight on the budget and wanting a basic kit is quite doable now that you are moving from the 5D3 to the Tascam.

In my opinion your most basic kit should have in addition to your recorders, the following;

A single handheld microphone, my favorite is the Electro-Voice RE-50, in addition it should also include at least two lavalier microphones, again my favorite there is the Shure SM93, you will also want at least two twelve foot XLR male to XLR female microphone cables for each recorder and a single one hundred foot cable and at least a couple of rolls of gaffers tape such as in the link below for those times when you must secure a cable across a floor where the public will be walking.

http://www.filmtools.com/2pergaftapp6.html

And then you need a case that can be utilized to safely store and move your gear to and from the job, which can contain not only what you are starting out with, but will be added to the kit if you are successful.

I have a preference for Pelican Cases but if you want a nice tote case look into the PortaBrace PB-2650.

http://www.portabrace.com/products/production-gear/709-large-hard-cases-wheeled-pb-2650

Now that’s a very minimalistic approach, but considering the recorders you are utilizing they have already given you a decent foundation to build upon.

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^^Getting expensive!

I think I will probably go with another Tascam and a couple of the Samson wireless kits.

Would it benefit me in anyway to use a Rode Video Mic on my rig with the Tascam, or is the Tascam just as good?
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