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May 29, 2012 10:42 |  #1

My 60D is quite loud and to be honest, a little embarrassing at my daughter’s recitals. For those of you who’ve used a 60D and other Canon bodies can you compare the shutter sounds? Clunk vs. Click, etc..


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May 29, 2012 10:55 |  #2

mine isn't too loud. actually, coming from a rebel it actually sounds pretty sweet.

did it always sound that way or just recently?


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May 29, 2012 11:07 |  #3

It always sounded that way.. and I know there's nothing wrong with it, it's just kind of loud to me. I shot on a Pentax for years before switching to Canon and I don't remember the shutter being so loud.


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May 29, 2012 11:42 as a reply to Japers's post |  #4

I think its the mirror flipping up not the shutter.
so, you could try using live view and seeing if the sound is quieter.
there is a quiet shooting mode on the 60d also:cool:

i have a rebel t1i also and its shutter/mirror is horrible sounding



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May 29, 2012 11:43 |  #5

OP, stated "I shot on a Pentax for years before switching to Canon and I don't remember the shutter being so loud."

Was the Pentax from the film days? They were known to be one of the quietest focal plane shutters around, due in large part to the use of a lot of fabric as opposed to the metal shutter. I had a Konica, which was an all metal and it was considered one of the noisest.

I now have a 60D and have just learned to live with it.




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May 29, 2012 12:28 as a reply to John from PA's post |  #6

John, yes. Well.. digital as well, but I'm sure that played into it.

And Jeremy, I don't know why I didn't think of it, but you're exactly right! It is the mirror flipping up. It's not bad in LV but I so rarely use Live View for anything other than video.

I guess my new question is how does the mirror sound on other models?

*I'm not considering switching bodies, I'm just generally curious. I really enjoy my 60D! :)


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May 29, 2012 12:32 |  #7

60D is pretty quieter than most, honestly.


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May 29, 2012 13:41 |  #8

Canon Elan 7/7E (EOS 30/33) were built to be especially quiet... I used to use one in wedding ceremonies, while using a pair of EOS-3s for everything else (EOS-3 have a quiet mode, but it simply rewinds the film slower and more quietly, does nothing to reduce shutter noise). I wish that they'd apply some of the same principles to modern DSLRs.

My 7Ds, 50Ds, 30Ds and 10Ds aren't loud, but aren't nearly as quiet as the Elan 7E. But 5DII, now that's pretty loud... louder than the crop cameras. It's the only Canon DSLR I've used that has sent a horse "vertical" when used too close. I guess the 5DIII has a "silent" mode that's a bit quieter.

I agree... try Live View mode. There are also "noise blimps" that you can get, that fit around the camera and reduce it's noise. Pricey though, theyre used on live movie sets, among other places. You might be able to rig something yourself.

A camera shop might be able to improve the mirror dampening in the camera... but I really don't find 60D very noisy personally. Maybe you are just feeling self-conscious. Have someone stand a few feet from you and see if they can actually hear the camera at all.

Horizontal running cloth shutters (such as Leica used.... and Pentax, and Canon, and many others for a while) are usually quieter than most vertical, metal bladed focal plane shutters. Pentax and Canon continued to use cloth shutters long after many other manufacturers had switched to the Copal type, vertical metal shutters. The downside, the horizontal cloth shutters many topped out at 1/500 shutter speed, most only managed 1/60 flash sync, plus were more easily damaged, needed adjustment and service more often. The metal shutters gave immediate gains to 1/125 flash sync and higher shutter speeds... commonly 1/1000 and even 1/2000 in 1960 (Konica F early in the year with an early mechanical form of the vertical metal shutter, tho later in 1960 Canon R2000 managed 1/2000 with a cloth shutter too... neither camera lasted long in the marketplace, though). Most of the new shutter design only offered 1/1000 through the 1960s and 1970s, but soon 1/2000 was more common once they became electronically controlled, then 1/4000 the the early 1980s (Nikon FM2N). Tolerances were more accurate... +/- 25% with the earlier mechanical, +/- 10% approx. with the later electronically controlled versions. Durability was way, way up and service requirements greatly reduced... a Konica T3 I bought in 1979 is working just as well today as it did then, was serviced once in the mid 1990s.

Now this type shutter is what pretty much what all modern DSLRs use, offering speeds up to 1/8000 (a few even faster), flash sync up to 1/300 and a very high degree of accuracy, plus pretty incredible long-term durability and virtually no service requirement.

You also could get some pretty weird "trailing" effects using flash combined with a horizontally running cloth shutter.

Now, a Nikon film camera with the MD-11 or MD-12 motor drive... that's frickin' noisy! It wasn't called the "AK47 of Motor Drives" for nothing! Or try a Mamiya RB67 or Pentax 67... that 60x70mm mirror in those cameras really packs a wallop (the early Pentax 6x7 didn't have mirror lockup, either!).


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May 29, 2012 13:47 as a reply to amfoto1's post |  #9

I'm still sporting a 20D and it has quite a "clack" when it shoots. I agree with you about being embarrassed about the noise in quiet locations. My brother recently upgraded from a 40D to a 60D and both of those were quieter.

My question is, how does the 7D compare? That's the one I am considering for my upgrade.


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May 29, 2012 14:40 |  #10

Usually higher end cameras get louder, not softer.

What's strange is that many associate the sound of the shutter with quality, and a loud shutter is a sign of a "real" camera.


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May 29, 2012 16:01 as a reply to tkbslc's post |  #11

You should be able to find plenty of sound clips on various shutters (I know I've seen lots on youtube), but they're all going to be pretty similar. Just keep snapping away, your subjects (and others around you) will eventually start to ignore it.

It's not as bad as a White House press conference, sometimes you can barely hear the person at the podium through all the clicking! :p

I would think that the full-frame and 1 series would be the loudest (larger, heavier duty mirrors/shutters).

Just keep clicking away!


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May 29, 2012 16:03 as a reply to tkbslc's post |  #12

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May 29, 2012 19:59 |  #13

Yeah, you can look on youtube for videos about shutter sounds for all the cameras. If you want a silent shutter mode when not in live view, I believe the 1Ds mk iii and the 5D mk iii both have that option. Hefty premium for those bodies though.


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May 29, 2012 20:03 |  #14

mike_311 wrote in post #14500282external link
mine isn't too loud. actually, coming from a rebel it actually sounds pretty sweet.

Same here. When I got the 60d that was the second thing I noticed from my 550d (viewfinder was the first thing)


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May 29, 2012 20:03 |  #15

Live view by default will be quieter because it is only cocking the shutter and not driving the mirror also. It is not that loud but live view will be the best way to get silence even in normal modes, the silent modes just delay the shutter cocking to make it appear quieter.

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