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Jul 23, 2012 05:43 |  #76

Probably a stupid question, but does it still have a focal plane shutter?


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Jul 23, 2012 05:49 |  #77

The more I read about this little guy, the more I like it!

I see it more of a complement to a dSLR Canon owner with a bevy of lenses who wants a more compact/portable solution without buying a new system and still benefiting from all the pluses of a big sensor.
See it as buying a shrunken T4i for those "on the go" moments.
I'm sold. Do they make them in orange? :D


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Jul 23, 2012 05:53 |  #78

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35mm equiv is not wide enough for me

Yeah, I found that out with my X100...


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Jul 23, 2012 05:56 |  #79

Just adding my 2c, I fel like I will sell my x100 when Canon releases the "pro" version of the EOS M camera. It has been mentioned that the first one would be aimed to mass market. Maybe the "better" version (hard to call it pro, actually) will have EVF and the quirks like the x100.


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Jul 23, 2012 05:58 |  #80

The EOS M utilizes Canon’s Hybrid CMOS AF system to deliver fast autofocus speed for both video and photos. The Hybrid CMOS AF system truly shines when shooting video with EOS Full HD Movie mode including Movie Servo AF for continuous autofocus and tracking of moving subjects. The Hybrid CMOS AF system is located on the CMOS sensor itself and combines phase-difference AF and contrast AF to achieve operational stability, speed and precision. The Movie Servo AF function on the EOS M is enabled by default which keeps images on the rear screen in constant focus, even before the shutter is pressed. This continual focus makes for sharp video capture in a snap or to help reduce shutter lag due to focusing when still images want to be shot.

That's from Canon's official release. I expect the tech writer to be fired and an official retraction statement due to the false nature of these sentences.


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Jul 23, 2012 06:02 |  #81

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The only thing slightly interesting about this camera, to me, is the Hybrid AF...

What was Canon thinking with that kind of price? Hoping their name alone can sell the product?

Sheesh. I'll stick with my m4/3 for a compact backup. Cause honestly... I wouldnt want to use ANY of my EF lenses with a body that small, makes no sense. My Sigma 50 and Samyang 14 belong on cameras like my 5D :P

I think they're hoping that people with EF/EF-S lenses will buy this little guy and think "sweet, I'll just buy the adapter, and don't have to buy two different lens systems". Of course, without the EVF, 90% of EF lenses would handle like absolute crap on this body.


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Jul 23, 2012 06:03 |  #82

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What are you talking about? I'm essentially pulling off this feat every day I wear pants! :lol:

the f4?:lol:


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Jul 23, 2012 06:04 |  #83

AngryCorgi wrote in post #14755708external link
That's from Canon's official release. I expect the tech writer to be fired and an official retraction statement due to the false nature of these sentences.

how much AF points though?


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Jul 23, 2012 06:21 |  #84

LowriderS10 wrote in post #14755712external link
I think they're hoping that people with EF/EF-S lenses will buy this little guy and think "sweet, I'll just buy the adapter, and don't have to buy two different lens systems". Of course, without the EVF, 90% of EF lenses would handle like absolute crap on this body.

Are you referring from an ergonomic standpoint? Like lenses will just feel weird holding them up with an LCD instead of viewfinder?

I would otherwise agree, but I guess as inventive photographers, we would find a way that works for us, right? :p

That said, it would depend on your use as opposed the the lens itself. Of course, it won't be like an SLR at all, but if you used a tripod a lot, or were intending it for video, the lenses would still be fine.




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Jul 23, 2012 06:23 |  #85

So curious if manual mode is available in video mode, anyone knows? :)


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Jul 23, 2012 06:25 |  #86

mrkgoo wrote in post #14755734external link
Are you referring from an ergonomic standpoint? Like lenses will just feel weird holding them up with an LCD instead of viewfinder?

Yes...I can't imagine putting my 16-35L II on a body roughly the size of my S100 and then having to look at the screen while taking the picture...it may work well with the lighter lenses (Pancake, Nifty Fifty) and the EF-M lenses, but for the majority of EF lenses, the ones that may be kind of fun on it...I can't see it handling well.


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Jul 23, 2012 06:34 |  #87

LowriderS10 wrote in post #14755739external link
Yes...I can't imagine putting my 16-35L II on a body roughly the size of my S100 and then having to look at the screen while taking the picture...it may work well with the lighter lenses (Pancake, Nifty Fifty) and the EF-M lenses, but for the majority of EF lenses, the ones that may be kind of fun on it...I can't see it handling well.

I've thought about it, and wide angles I think I'd be ok with. Anything with IS, sure. Telephotos are obviously an issue.

I think it is an issue worth considering in general, but then, like I said, it will be a different camera with a different purpose. One that in a jiffy can be used in certain ways that might be awkward but are at least possible. To think of it in a way you would consider an SLR is not being imaginative enough.

Of course, doing the opposite and NOT considering how it can be a hinderance will also be short-sighted.

I just want it as a point and shoot (with 22 mm f/2 prime) that can double as a an SLR back if needed. It's kind of expensive for that though...like I could just buy a Point and shoot.

As an aside, I like the design. I love the look of the S95 and S100, so it would go without saying I'd like this. I would use it as a simple camera, so appreciate simple controls.




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Jul 23, 2012 06:42 |  #88

LowriderS10 wrote in post #14755739external link
Yes...I can't imagine putting my 16-35L II on a body roughly the size of my S100 and then having to look at the screen while taking the picture...it may work well with the lighter lenses (Pancake, Nifty Fifty) and the EF-M lenses, but for the majority of EF lenses, the ones that may be kind of fun on it...I can't see it handling well.

My idea of using this little guy is to:
a) put my 10-22mm on it (with the adapter of course)
2) aperture at f/8
3) hyperfocal distance of 0.67m (focuses 0.33m to infinity at 10mm, 1.3m to infinity at 22mm)
4) MF,
5) frame the shot on the LCD and shoot away.


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Jul 23, 2012 06:43 |  #89

WireWess wrote in post #14755736external link
So curious if manual mode is available in video mode, anyone knows? :)

"Though the camera lacks certain direct controls, it still supports full manual shooting, even in video mode."

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Jul 23, 2012 07:37 |  #90

Anyone besides me bugged by no viewfinder to look through.I guess I'm a traditionalist.




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