70-200 f4L For Motorsport? - Page 2

Heycoop Photography · 31st of August 2012 (Fri)

Another question, how does the non IS version compare with the IS version for the f/4

red snapper · 31st of August 2012 (Fri)

Works great if you can get close.

Day 63 - 03_03_2012 Clipsal 500 Saturday (238) Merc SLS by red snapper 205, on Flickr

03_03_2012 Clipsal 500 Saturday (23) by red snapper 205, on Flickr

Paolo.Leviste · 31st of August 2012 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeaanuut

as far as 70-200 for motorsports, its an excellent lens. Because it is clearer than your 75-300 you will be able to do a bit more cropping and get a very usable image. Even with a 1.4 extender you will be bumped tp f5.6 but you still can get an excellent image. I am currently using a 70-200 2.8 non IS and love it! You cant go wrong.

...Is that the Long Beach Grand Prix?

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peeaanuut · 31st of August 2012 (Fri)

yeah, both are LB. The red one is from 2006 and the yellow one is from 2012.

Paolo.Leviste · 31st of August 2012 (Fri)

Is it hard to get photo passes there? I missed this year, but since I'm new to LBC, I'd love to get there next time.

peeaanuut · 31st of August 2012 (Fri)

I have never had a photo pass. Those are from the general admin areas. I usually find a photog hole on the inside fence and then ride the spectator fence so I end up shooting passed it. You can get the super photo pass, but its like $250 for the weekend and the spots are decent, but not great. You do get some pit access for practice I think, but no hot pit access for any races.

chopperdave · 1st of September 2012 (Sat)

The 70-200mm f4 is better than most people that use it. Great lens, light as heck, I shoulda probobly kept mine (but I ain't giving up my 2.8 nonIS!!)

peeaanuut · 1st of September 2012 (Sat)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chopperdave

The 70-200mm f4 is better than most people that use it. Great lens, light as heck, I shoulda probobly kept mine (but I ain't giving up my 2.8 nonIS!!)

I had the option and went for the same. But I cant hate on the f4 at all. Great lens.

Luckless · 1st of September 2012 (Sat)

Having held a 70-200 f/2.8 and seen what it can do, I know I want one. But, I will be keeping my f/4 for outdoor sports and such, because it is such a nice lens to carry around.

Eyal · 1st of September 2012 (Sat)

The 70-200 is an amazing lens, regardless its F/4 without IS or the latest 2.8 II IS.

There is no real need for 2.8 for out door, or even IS.
The F/4 can be easily hand-held as its much lighter.

The only problem is how far you are shooting. If its too far, you can use a 1.4 TC and still get better IQ than your 75-300.

Luckless · 1st of September 2012 (Sat)

f/2.8 is handy if you are doing something that you want that extra bit of depth of field isolation. But usually I'm shooting sports or similar with the 70-200, so I don't want it too narrow to begin with.

I personally prefer using primes over zooms, and only bought the 70-200 f/4L non-IS to shoot paintball, which here is generally always outdoors during the day. (There is The Dome in Moncton, but I haven't gotten around to there, and haven't seen what the light is like.) I figured the f/4 would be more than good enough for my needs, and I would never need that f/2.8.

However, I recently got into shooting Roller Derby,... And a dimly lit with odd lighting seems to be a rule or something with the sport.

Paolo.Leviste · 1st of September 2012 (Sat)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckless

Having held a 70-200 f/2.8 and seen what it can do, I know I want one. But, I will be keeping my f/4 for outdoor sports and such, because it is such a nice lens to carry around.

Yup. Having rented the 2.8L IS multiple times, and now owning the f4L...I think having both is just easier. I don't need the weight and heft of the 2.8L IS all the time, as it's much easier to lug the f4L around.

breney · 1st of September 2012 (Sat)

£400 isn't bad for a used 70-200 f4, depending on condition, but I would try to haggle with him to get it below £400 to maybe £390 or so.

Geejay · 2nd of September 2012 (Sun)

For trackside panning shots 70-200 is a very useful lens. For head-on and 3/4 shots it can be a bit short, though that depends where you're able to stand and which circuit you're at.

The Canon f4 version is cheaper, considerably lighter and more compact than the f2.8 version. If you can land a clean used version, you'll not lose any money on it should you wish to move it on.

I like my Sigma 70-200 and have snagged some decent Motorsport shots with it. The OS version gets good reviews and being f2.8 opens up the option to fit 1.4x or 2.0x adapters and still have autofocus..

monkeynuts1 · 2nd of September 2012 (Sun)

These shots were taken with a non is 70-200 2.8

31st of August 2012 (Fri)	#16
Heycoop Photography Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 439 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? Another question, how does the non IS version compare with the IS version for the f/4 __________________ Body: Canon 450D Gripped Lenses: Canon 70-200 F4 L, 1.4x Tele Converter and Canon 28-80 Kit Lens Website: http://heycoopphotography.webs.com/

31st of August 2012 (Fri)	#17
red snapper Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 284	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? Works great if you can get close. Day 63 - 03_03_2012 Clipsal 500 Saturday (238) Merc SLS by red snapper 205, on Flickr 03_03_2012 Clipsal 500 Saturday (23) by red snapper 205, on Flickr __________________ If you do what you always do, you get what you always get. 400D, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 17-70, 70-200 f4L (non IS), 430 EX II, flickr

31st of August 2012 (Fri)	#19
peeaanuut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,193 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? yeah, both are LB. The red one is from 2006 and the yellow one is from 2012. __________________ image creating thingamajiggy, size and charge addition, Lens that doesnt move, wider lens that doesnt move but less deep like, an even wider lens that doesnt move and even less deep like, zoomy lens, Better zoomy lens, bigger zoomy lens, excellent bigish zoomy Lens, light maker, excellent zoomy Lens magnifier My Photo Blog: http://joetakesphotos.com/

31st of August 2012 (Fri)	#20
Paolo.Leviste Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 934 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? Is it hard to get photo passes there? I missed this year, but since I'm new to LBC, I'd love to get there next time. __________________ [ Canon 5DII/30D \| 24-70 f2.8L \| Σ 30 f1.4 \| Σ 50 f1.4 \| 70-200 f4L \| 580EX II ] 3.Hundred.6.SIX SmugMug

31st of August 2012 (Fri)	#21
peeaanuut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,193 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? I have never had a photo pass. Those are from the general admin areas. I usually find a photog hole on the inside fence and then ride the spectator fence so I end up shooting passed it. You can get the super photo pass, but its like $250 for the weekend and the spots are decent, but not great. You do get some pit access for practice I think, but no hot pit access for any races. __________________ image creating thingamajiggy, size and charge addition, Lens that doesnt move, wider lens that doesnt move but less deep like, an even wider lens that doesnt move and even less deep like, zoomy lens, Better zoomy lens, bigger zoomy lens, excellent bigish zoomy Lens, light maker, excellent zoomy Lens magnifier My Photo Blog: http://joetakesphotos.com/

1st of September 2012 (Sat)	#22
chopperdave Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,051	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? The 70-200mm f4 is better than most people that use it. Great lens, light as heck, I shoulda probobly kept mine (but I ain't giving up my 2.8 nonIS!!) __________________ David davidmoorephoto.com racecarshots.com

1st of September 2012 (Sat)	#24
Luckless Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 1,167 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? Having held a 70-200 f/2.8 and seen what it can do, I know I want one. But, I will be keeping my f/4 for outdoor sports and such, because it is such a nice lens to carry around. __________________ Canon EOS 7D \| EF 28 f/1.8 \| EF 85 f/1.8 \| EF 70-200 f/4L \| EF-S 17-55 Flickr: Real-Luckless

1st of September 2012 (Sat)	#25
Eyal Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 327	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? The 70-200 is an amazing lens, regardless its F/4 without IS or the latest 2.8 II IS. There is no real need for 2.8 for out door, or even IS. The F/4 can be easily hand-held as its much lighter. The only problem is how far you are shooting. If its too far, you can use a 1.4 TC and still get better IQ than your 75-300. __________________ Gear: 5DMarkIII+Grip \| 1D Mark IV Σ 50mm F/1.4 \| 16-35 F/2.8L II \| 24-70 F/2.8L II \| 100mm F/2.8L IS \| 70-200 F/2.8L IS II \| Extender 2x III

1st of September 2012 (Sat)	#26
Luckless Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 1,167 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? f/2.8 is handy if you are doing something that you want that extra bit of depth of field isolation. But usually I'm shooting sports or similar with the 70-200, so I don't want it too narrow to begin with. I personally prefer using primes over zooms, and only bought the 70-200 f/4L non-IS to shoot paintball, which here is generally always outdoors during the day. (There is The Dome in Moncton, but I haven't gotten around to there, and haven't seen what the light is like.) I figured the f/4 would be more than good enough for my needs, and I would never need that f/2.8. However, I recently got into shooting Roller Derby,... And a dimly lit with odd lighting seems to be a rule or something with the sport. __________________ Canon EOS 7D \| EF 28 f/1.8 \| EF 85 f/1.8 \| EF 70-200 f/4L \| EF-S 17-55 Flickr: Real-Luckless

1st of September 2012 (Sat)	#28
breney Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Ireland Posts: 263	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? £400 isn't bad for a used 70-200 f4, depending on condition, but I would try to haggle with him to get it below £400 to maybe £390 or so. __________________ Canon 40D gripped · Canon 300D Gripped · Tamron 17-50 f2.8 • Canon 28-200 f3.5-5.6 · Canon 50mm f1.8 · Slik Black Diamond Tripod

2nd of September 2012 (Sun)	#30
monkeynuts1 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Land of the concrete cows Posts: 106 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: 70-200 f4L For Motorsport? These shots were taken with a non is 70-200 2.8 __________________ 7D 24-105L.........70-200F2.8 L .............100-400 L lens

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