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Sep 12, 2012 16:23 |  #9256

MizzouMan_2000 wrote in post #14982500external link
If you improve sharpness at one focus point at the sacrifice of others, what good is it? When you're shooting action using a zoom, then why limit yourself to one focal length by having to avoid others because they won't be as sharp after doing a M.A.? With a zoom it may help in one focal length but it's not an all encompasing solution that's going to optimize focus performancce throughout the range. That's all I'm saying.

You're assuming I'm giving up something on one end, I'm not really. I'm perfectly happy with how my MFAing has turned out, but that's not to say others have not. It is probably a crap shoot to a certain extent. Body and lens combo maybe.


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Sep 12, 2012 16:34 |  #9257

MA is only a tool to get closer to perfect, more often, given the conditions of the specific test environment. There is enough slop in the Canon AF system that it is difficult to get an accurate MA adjustment, especially if you are not using a good tool for the process. The other issue is, the MA amount needed for a given lens can vary significantly in different light, say Tungsten lighting vs natural light. My MA adjustments of a given lens tend to vary more based on lighting than they do between the wide and tele ends of the zoom.

I previously used lens align, but the adjusting process was quite subjective, and frustrating. I recently purchased Focal and used it to MA my lenses on the 5d3. I believe Focal is much more accurate, as it takes a lot more test images (then I was taking), analyzes the test shots, and averages the results to set the best MA amount for a given situation. I did all my tests outdoors. I turn off the MA adjustments when I shoot inside, as I have not done indoor tests yet.


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Sep 12, 2012 18:34 as a reply to post 14982504 |  #9258

This is Brennan. C/C is welcome.

1.

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2. He's a hunter and asked to do some with his guns.

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3. I swear I did not touch this sky. Natural as the sun set with this storm. I'm not even sure I like it. It was pretty cool at the time but over-powering?

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4. Same sky a bit later.

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Sep 12, 2012 18:50 |  #9259

Very nice ones. Relaxed subject and it shows in the pictures.


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Sep 12, 2012 21:05 |  #9260

bobbyz wrote in post #14980872external link
1. Somehow I am not seeing these as sharp even in this smaller size
2. Color seems bit off. I rarely play with color as I don't know nothing about it:)
3. Shoot with you being next to the wall so more if it is OOF like in your closeup shot.

OK, so looking at my LR images, I found that many of them didn't get the sharpness setting applied to them consistently, so I've updated that.

I've also taken another crack at the white balance and toned it down even more. I think I'm more satisfied with what I'm seeting. I'm exporting now and will upload soon and compare before & after.



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Sep 12, 2012 22:16 |  #9261

Before (left) and After white balance adjustment & sharpening

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Sep 12, 2012 22:27 |  #9262

Some from this weekend....

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Sep 12, 2012 22:40 |  #9263

Working on more photos from a different set than by the brick wall.

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Sep 13, 2012 11:55 |  #9264

Dave Jr wrote in post #14982593external link
MA is only a tool to get closer to perfect, more often, given the conditions of the specific test environment. There is enough slop in the Canon AF system that it is difficult to get an accurate MA adjustment, especially if you are not using a good tool for the process. The other issue is, the MA amount needed for a given lens can vary significantly in different light, say Tungsten lighting vs natural light. My MA adjustments of a given lens tend to vary more based on lighting than they do between the wide and tele ends of the zoom.

I previously used lens align, but the adjusting process was quite subjective, and frustrating. I recently purchased Focal and used it to MA my lenses on the 5d3. I believe Focal is much more accurate, as it takes a lot more test images (then I was taking), analyzes the test shots, and averages the results to set the best MA amount for a given situation. I did all my tests outdoors. I turn off the MA adjustments when I shoot inside, as I have not done indoor tests yet.

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Sep 14, 2012 08:39 |  #9265

stupid question, but what is ma? I was thinking manual but in the context it doesnt seem right. :D


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Sep 14, 2012 08:41 |  #9266

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Sep 14, 2012 09:00 |  #9267

Nathan nice shot. Like #1.


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Sep 14, 2012 09:19 |  #9268

bobbyz wrote in post #14989997external link
Nathan nice shot. Like #1.

Thank you Bobby! :)


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Sep 14, 2012 19:16 |  #9269

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Sep 14, 2012 21:08 |  #9270

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I like the concept here, I just think you should have moved the "shoes" closer to the camera and made them more dominate, and would have also created a shallower focus on the subject. My first reaction was this is out of focus...then I noticed the shoes.


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