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owenb
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Dec 23, 2012 11:09 |  #1

hi guys currently have a 5d classic (mk1) looking to trade it in towards a dirfferent body

i mainly take studio shots at low iso settings but have quite a limited ares ( my studio is very small) so like the full frame type cameras

i was originally getting a 5d mk2 as they have just had a fairly decent price drop however a spanner has been introduced

i was talking to a pro and he insisted that a 1ds mk2 is cheaper used and better for pure studio shots although he acknowleded that it was older technology and didnt use video (which im not really worried about)... i have never used a 1ds i like the look of them tho

my question is really simple for pure studio work at low iso would you go for a used 5d 2 or a used 1 ds mk2 ?

oh i already own sever ef lenses ( 17-40 l, 70-200l)

cheers in advance




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Dec 23, 2012 13:54 |  #2

Look at the 1Ds MK II thread and you'll see lots about this. Personally I've been looking at this same issue
and have decided on the 1Ds. Partially because it will use the same accessories as my IIn. Also with your
17-40,a filter and a 1D body you have a very nice weather sealed setup.


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Dec 23, 2012 14:05 |  #3
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Studio = MF in my mind and 4 out of 5 commercial photographers.


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Dec 23, 2012 14:10 |  #4

besides better build you not getting anything. and unless you shooting really wider apertures, not sure why would i need MF unless that is what i was doing all my life. even then i would guess LV would help.


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Dec 23, 2012 20:58 |  #5

The 1ds is a pro level body. It is older yes and does okay at high ISO(it is no 5d mk II but still good). The images will remind you of your 5d classic a lot in color tone and feel. If you can live without the video and newer features then it is a better option in my opinion.

The pros-
AF- faster and more points to use.
Better Build
Built in grip
Price

The Cons-
Less MP
12 bit raw
harder to use(requires multiple buttons to be held at the same time for some things)
no video/ live view
lower res and smaller screen(but made up by firewire output for tethered shooting)
heavier and older battery tech(NiMH vs Li-ion)
No AF micro adjustments

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Kyles
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Dec 23, 2012 21:20 |  #6

1dsmk2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a great camera built like a tank, designed for "a lot" of use!


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Primes - 100 F2.8 macro L - 135 F2 L - 300 F4 L
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Lowner
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Dec 24, 2012 03:33 |  #7

Canon have said that they are working on a new 1Ds. When it will appear no one knows, but they do need to catch up with Nikon. Originally they claimed that they were combining the two 1D lines together but admitted thats no longer the case. I never believed it would work, so am prepared to wait and hope that the new body does everything I need.


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Dec 24, 2012 03:43 |  #8

Sometime after the first of the year I will have a 1DS MII to go along with the 5D I have as well. While most of the work will be studio, I have no reservations about taking it out on the street to shoot when needed. I've always missed the 1D series after owning a couple and can't wait to go back to shooting with those bodies.


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Dec 24, 2012 08:54 |  #9

It's a great camera at a great price if that resolution works for you for studio work.


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Dec 24, 2012 10:29 as a reply to ScullenCrossBones's post |  #10

hmm, pro photog friend sold his 1Ds MKII for a 5D MKII and considers it a win win situation. He's a highly successful travel photog that now does a lot of commercial and stock work in his studio.

For me, pure studio work has nothing to do with MF and I would think higher MP would be a benefit. Yes, the AF of the 1Ds MKII is better, but in a studio, it's a moot point.

Go for the 5D MKII IMHO.


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Dec 24, 2012 15:55 |  #11

thanks guys i have been offered a 1ds mk2 at £600 and its in a1 condition, with about 15000 accuations, a 5d2 is around £1100 used thats a big difference would you say the 5d2 is worth that much more than the 1ds 2?




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bobbyz
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Dec 24, 2012 16:46 |  #12

I will take 1dsmk2 then.


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Dec 24, 2012 17:22 |  #13

I tend to want more resolution for a studio camera, but if it works for you, it's great.


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Dec 25, 2012 01:36 |  #14

If the price was even between the two, I'd say take your pick. But for nearly half the price of the 5DII, the 1DsII is a steal.


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