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The Official High School Softball 2013 Thread

 
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Mar 26, 2013 22:09 |  #16

Phil, thank you so much for this great post full of easy to understand information. This is why I love visiting this forum.


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Mar 26, 2013 22:36 |  #17

outstanding stuff Phil
I will try to digest it
I shot a baseball game a softball game and a track meet tonight after working all day

Ill start on PP after I eat
may take me a day or 2 to get them done

I did have a sale for 75 bucks
so I went back to the same school tonight and shot like crazy

If they buy I go back lol

your stuff is outstanding

thanks so much for your help

Malone thanks for the call its late
I missed it while I was shooting
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thanks for your help and the help of the members of this forum

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Mar 27, 2013 09:45 |  #18

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nama and malone
give me a hollar
if you get a chance
I got 4 games today
my number is on my website

thanks

sorry I wasn't able to get back to you last night. once I stepped away from the machine, I (fortunately) didn't come back on until now. just hangin with the wife and kids last night. hope the shoot went well. pm me if you have any questions.


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Mar 27, 2013 11:35 |  #19

I may hollar at lunch if they let me outta prison lol
if your not busy


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Mar 27, 2013 11:56 |  #20

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I may hollar at lunch if they let me outta prison lol
if your not busy

dude, I am SWAMPED! quarter end is a brutal time for me but by late this afternoon, I should be looking much better....hopefully.


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Mar 27, 2013 15:15 |  #21

cool dude thanks


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Mar 27, 2013 17:34 |  #22

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Pat,

I want to dissect this pic in a bit of detail. The moment is excellent. You have focus, face, action and the ball. However, there are two items that detract in a big way. First, there is no need to have the second baseman in the scene directly behind the pitcher. It only detracts from her. You should be able to position yourself to have a clean background all the way to the wall--or at least nobody directly behind your pitcher subject.

Second and most important is the lighting. This half sun, half shade, perspective is to be avoided as much as possible. You are fortunate here that the pitcher isn't wearing a cap or visor. Even so, the image quality of the face is severely compromised. If you boost contrast, the facial sun/shade line looks even worse. If the contrast remains low, the image lacks 'punch.'

Since the pitchers motion is repeated over and over, you can move to a more desirable spot at will (usually). Let me suggest two possibilities. Either shoot with the sun at your back or move 180 degrees from that position and shoot directly back lit (into the sun).

If the diamond is oriented in the traditional way, moving to the third base side will open the right handed pitcher's body toward the sun (late afternoon game) where you can get the shot without shadows being a problem.


Clean background, face in full sun.
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Not all situations will allow you to shoot with the sun at your back. In those cases, see if you can shoot back lit. Shoot into the sun, add 2/3 or a full stop of exposure compensation (or shoot Manual) to properly expose the skin and then fire away. This technique avoids shadows across the face and is especially good when the players are wearing caps, visors or helmets. The tops of the shoulders will be overexposed and the head will have a "hair light" effect.

For your pitcher image. I would have suggested moving to the third base side of the diamond and shooting back lit into the sun. Use +EC as needed for skin exposure and avoid sharp shadow lines across the face.


Back lit t-ball. Clean view of this priceless little face even with a helmet. Plus exposure compensation. No squinting on back lit shots because the sun is behind the subject.
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When you have a favorable setting sun, wait till the 'golden hour' to shoot the pitcher. That will give great skin tones, beautiful colors, and the low sun angle will allow that wonderful light to get under the bill of the cap to illuminate the eyes.


Golden hour light under the bill of the cap.
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Another great aspect of this technique is that it will extend to other sports like tennis.


Golden morning light
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Back lit with fairly high sun. No face shadows and 'hair light' effect. Plus exposure compensation. Note the dust that was just knocked off the ball.

Tennis with high, harsh sun and visor. No shadows from the visor because it was back lit.


You can even apply the back lit technique to football. Plus exposure compensation and no shadows inside the helmet allow this (Cornellius Carradine) African-American player's features to be clearly visible.


Just remember that half sun/half shade usually doesn't work as well as one or the other.


I hope this constructively helps.

Phil

A Note About Processing: If you shoot back lit, very often the image Straight Out Of the Camera (SOOC) will appear washed out or hopelessly hazy. Fear not. Just take that RAW image (you do shoot RAW, don't you), and with one eye on the histogram and one eye on the image, slide the "blacks" slider (For Lightroom. Other software will have something equivalent to set the black point) to make the blacks blacker until the haze disappears and the black part of the histogram moves close to the left edge. Fine tune with contrast if desired and... ... Voila! The image will look good with no washed out look or haze apparent. You can do the same thing with jpeg images but the results will be better if you start with the RAW file.

Good advise Phil but when critiquing baseball/softball, stick with examples of the sport. I would crop your first two pictures a lot tighter.


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Mar 28, 2013 10:46 as a reply to  @ TedEllis's post |  #23

Some images from a recent couple of games that I shot


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Mar 28, 2013 10:47 as a reply to  @ sprig25's post |  #24

A couple more.


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Mar 29, 2013 21:03 |  #25

namasste wrote in post #15757822 (external link)
burnett, it might seem counterintuitive but try shooting your batters from the opposite side (shoot right handed batters from the third base side). as the batter turns out, you can get a much better look at the face that way. I know it seems odd but trust me, it works. In the lighting you had, there would have been some backlighting issues for the right handed batters but the lefties would have been great.

nice work on the night stuff, looks clean.

Thanks for the tip. Just waiting for my first game of the season.


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Mar 29, 2013 21:27 |  #26

namasste wrote in post #15757822 (external link)
burnett, it might seem counterintuitive but try shooting your batters from the opposite side (shoot right handed batters from the third base side). as the batter turns out, you can get a much better look at the face that way. I know it seems odd but trust me, it works. In the lighting you had, there would have been some backlighting issues for the right handed batters but the lefties would have been great.

nice work on the night stuff, looks clean.

I did some of that thanks
Ill post some
Ive shot every night this week plus work all day
I do understand what you mean

one problem a lot of hs sb and bb kids dont follow through like the pros or college
a lot of hands in the face of a rt handed batter from the 3rd base side
but I got some that might be fair

all night binge of PP and posting
and a little Jack and Coke lol

to be continued.............​..


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Apr 01, 2013 09:54 as a reply to  @ burnet44's post |  #28

My first softball game to photograph. It was a little different for me as compared to baseball.

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Apr 06, 2013 21:42 |  #29

Defending AA state champs, Wayne, taking on cross county (AAA) rival, Spring Valley. Wayne wins 11-1 after 4 innings.

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UPDATE: They played a doubleheader tonight and won 16-0 in the first game (Threw a 1 hitter) and played almost all JV against the other teams varsity the second game and won 13-0 and threw a no hitter. Crazy good team.

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From a game earlier this week.

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