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Samyang Rokinon Vivitar 14 2.8 lens

 
drisley
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May 23, 2013 19:45 |  #2131

After nearly 2 weeks shipping from Adorama, my Samyang lens SHOULD arrive Friday, the very last day I needed it for a show I'm doing Saturday.

Tomorrow I want to use it indoors at a large conference for the show, probably be at around F2.8, if I set it to about 2 ft it should be OK for DOF for most shots? Or would I have to stop down. I'm new to manual focusing and because I didn't get the lens last week as planned, won't have time to play and learn, so it's going to be a crash course.


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May 23, 2013 19:54 |  #2132

drisley wrote in post #15961474external link
After nearly 2 weeks shipping from Adorama, my Samyang lens SHOULD arrive Friday, the very last day I needed it for a show I'm doing Saturday.

Tomorrow I want to use it indoors at a large conference for the show, probably be at around F2.8, if I set it to about 2 ft it should be OK for DOF for most shots? Or would I have to stop down. I'm new to manual focusing and because I didn't get the lens last week as planned, won't have time to play and learn, so it's going to be a crash course.

I used one in the Roman baths at Bath, UK. I set it at f2.8 and I used Live View 10x just to get a sharp initial shot. Then I pretty much left it alone the whole time and just adjusted shutter speed for exposure.


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May 23, 2013 20:09 |  #2133

drisley wrote in post #15961474 (external link)
After nearly 2 weeks shipping from Adorama, my Samyang lens SHOULD arrive Friday, the very last day I needed it for a show I'm doing Saturday.

Tomorrow I want to use it indoors at a large conference for the show, probably be at around F2.8, if I set it to about 2 ft it should be OK for DOF for most shots? Or would I have to stop down. I'm new to manual focusing and because I didn't get the lens last week as planned, won't have time to play and learn, so it's going to be a crash course.


It is super easy to use, you should be fine.

Here's some bracketed shots I took in the rain of the Brooklyn Bridge, not the best but works ok.

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May 23, 2013 21:00 |  #2134

Wow nice pic!

Thanks for the info guys!

Speaking of using in baths... I suspect this lens isn't very weather sealed to match my 1D3?


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May 23, 2013 21:13 |  #2135

drisley wrote in post #15961474external link
After nearly 2 weeks shipping from Adorama, my Samyang lens SHOULD arrive Friday, the very last day I needed it for a show I'm doing Saturday.

Tomorrow I want to use it indoors at a large conference for the show, probably be at around F2.8, if I set it to about 2 ft it should be OK for DOF for most shots? Or would I have to stop down. I'm new to manual focusing and because I didn't get the lens last week as planned, won't have time to play and learn, so it's going to be a crash course.

At 2.8 I think 2 feet will be too close (unless your target is about 1 foot away, very unlikely with a wide angle)! Your situation will be trickier at F2.8. You will probably want to set it at more like 6 feet, I think (remember, the focus plane will start before what you set it at. At 6 feet things from roughly 4 feet to fairly far away should be in focus). Unless the lighting is really good, you will need to set the ISO up a bit so you don't get motion blur. Do a couple of trial shots and then review your picture, zoom way into it and pan around inside to get an idea of what kind of depth of field you are getting. If you want deep depth of field and the light is good enough, you may want to stop down to F4.


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May 23, 2013 21:39 |  #2136

drisley wrote in post #15961648external link
Wow nice pic!

Thanks for the info guys!

Speaking of using in baths... I suspect this lens isn't very weather sealed to match my 1D3?

It isn't weather sealed but since there aren't any electronics in it you probably don't have to worry as much as with some lenses. I've used mine in light rain and not had issues.


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May 23, 2013 21:49 |  #2137

Mookalafalas wrote in post #15961680 (external link)
At 2.8 I think 2 feet will be too close (unless your target is about 1 foot away, very unlikely with a wide angle)! Your situation will be trickier at F2.8. You will probably want to set it at more like 6 feet, I think (remember, the focus plane will start before what you set it at. At 6 feet things from roughly 4 feet to fairly far away should be in focus). Unless the lighting is really good, you will need to set the ISO up a bit so you don't get motion blur. Do a couple of trial shots and then review your picture, zoom way into it and pan around inside to get an idea of what kind of depth of field you are getting. If you want deep depth of field and the light is good enough, you may want to stop down to F4.

Thanks for the info! The 1D3 is still fantastic at high ISO's so I have no issue using ISO3200.

Arob1000 wrote in post #15961728 (external link)
It isn't weather sealed but since there aren't any electronics in it you probably don't have to worry as much as with some lenses. I've used mine in light rain and not had issues.

Oh yeah, never thought of that. LOL. Thanks again, this is my first new lens in many years after settling on the 24-70L and 70-200II L. And IF I get a good copy, the price makes me extra happy and less buyer's remorse after the fact (so hard to part with nearly $3k cdn on the 70-200).

Update:
After nearly 2 weeks, my lens arrived from Adorama, it looks like the guys at the depot were playing hockey with it, maybe it made a stop at MSG for the Rangers to practice with? LOL. Time to try it out. Yikes.

"Unboxing"

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Yikes!

So this is my first shot taken at F2.8, ISO1600, using Live View.

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So the center is sharp, now to see about the rest.

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May 24, 2013 10:43 |  #2138

Nothing beautiful about this but I'm impressed with the sharpness. Used LV again at F4.
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I'm finding I get the sharpest long distance shots at F5.6 at about 2M -3M. I thought people had suggested 2-3 feet, but that doesn't work as well for me (using LV) I can see that on long wide angle shots (say a landscape) 2-3M works about perfectly at F5.6


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May 24, 2013 19:30 |  #2139

drisley wrote in post #15963074external link
Nothing beautiful about this but I'm impressed with the sharpness. Used LV again at F4.
1D3, ISO800, Samyang F4.0external link

I'm finding I get the sharpest long distance shots at F5.6 at about 2M -3M. I thought people had suggested 2-3 feet, but that doesn't work as well for me (using LV) I can see that on long wide angle shots (say a landscape) 2-3M works about perfectly at F5.6

Glad you got it and it's working. I have been saying 5.6 and 1.2 or 1.5 (that neighborhood--around 5 feet) meters for many pages. 2-3 feet would just be for very close up stuff...


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May 24, 2013 21:10 |  #2140

Finally, on my third try, I've received an incredible copy of this lens. What a bargain for $350 -- *if* you get lucky the first time.

For those who were questioning whether my previous bad results were user error, here's a direct comparison I just did. Exact same shot, both at f/5.6 and focused to the 2m mark. Mind you, the "old" copy was actually the second one I received; the first was even worse by a good margin.

The corners were unusable on the first two copies, and beat the tar out of my 17-40L on the latest copy.

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May 24, 2013 22:27 |  #2141

Mookalafalas wrote in post #15964572external link
Glad you got it and it's working. I have been saying 5.6 and 1.2 or 1.5 (that neighborhood--around 5 feet) meters for many pages. 2-3 feet would just be for very close up stuff...

I saw that, but I think for me I have to use about 2M at F5.6. It's a great lens!


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May 25, 2013 09:36 |  #2142

HelenOster wrote in post #15950803external link
I am sorry that you did not see it, but it was there because I saw it.

Granted, not for as many days before the holiday as B&H and not on every page. Nevertheless it was there until Friday morning.

I have no reason to lie.

drisley wrote in post #15950759external link
It must have been in WEE letters since nobody I know could find it (unless it was a forbidden popup window) But the fact my lens is still only marked as "Packed Phase 1" after 1 week after placing the order, and nobody at Adorama can tell me exactly where the lens is and why it hasn't shipped that's what is more concerning at this point. I sent you an email to keep it off here, but as with most of Adorama's service thus far, no response.

I hope sometime in the next month to get my lens so I can post some pics. Oh the horror if I have a bum lens and have to deal with Adorama RMA Support! LOL

Take this to PMs. Handling it publicly is unprofessional and doesn't look good on your or Adorama. Especially when it's just clogging an image sample thread. -1 to Adorama for lack of public tact.


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May 25, 2013 09:38 |  #2143

Does anyone own the Bower version of this lens? I'm able to get it much cheaper than retail and wondering if the Bower is ranked the same as the other "brands". Aren't they all the same manufacturer but distributed by different brands?


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May 25, 2013 16:49 |  #2144

bmurf wrote in post #15965899external link
Does anyone own the Bower version of this lens? I'm able to get it much cheaper than retail and wondering if the Bower is ranked the same as the other "brands". Aren't they all the same manufacturer but distributed by different brands?

From what I've heard it is identical.


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May 26, 2013 12:49 as a reply to Arob1000's post |  #2145

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