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The best battery pack for 600 EX-RT? Turbo SC Slim?

 
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Jul 31, 2013 22:39 |  #16

Roshan wrote in post #16171077 (external link)
Didn't want to start a new thread. I'm in the same boat. Just bought the 600ex rt a week ago.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …act_Battery_Pac​k_for.html (external link)

Is this a good battery pack to use?

It appears to be a B&H rebranded Pixel pack. They are good packs, I have several of the Pixel version. If you are using that, or a similar, pack you will also need 24 rechargable AA batteries, Eneloops are very good. Especially the new higher ampHr rated ones. And at least one really good charger/conditioner. When its all added together, the Cheetah 4500 is about the same price.

As discussed above there are other, more attractive options.


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Aug 01, 2013 03:18 |  #17

dmward wrote in post #16171466 (external link)
It appears to be a B&H rebranded Pixel pack. They are good packs, I have several of the Pixel version. If you are using that, or a similar, pack you will also need 24 rechargable AA batteries, Eneloops are very good. Especially the new higher ampHr rated ones. And at least one really good charger/conditioner. When its all added together, the Cheetah 4500 is about the same price.

As discussed above there are other, more attractive options.

Pack 1 - rebranded - US$74.95.
Pack 2 - original brand - US$59.95. https://www.cheetahsta​nd.com/category-s/1923.htm (external link)
So ............... an extra US$15 for just a different name printed on the side (which is usually inside the case and hidden anyway)?
You choose!
I chose the Pixel TD381, multiple times like David. Similarly, the Cheetah / Godox is superior in my book - now got those too.


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Aug 01, 2013 09:57 |  #18

dmward wrote in post #16171466 (external link)
It appears to be a B&H rebranded Pixel pack. They are good packs, I have several of the Pixel version. If you are using that, or a similar, pack you will also need 24 rechargable AA batteries, Eneloops are very good. Especially the new higher ampHr rated ones. And at least one really good charger/conditioner. When its all added together, the Cheetah 4500 is about the same price.

As discussed above there are other, more attractive options.

I have been using these batter packs (I have both Bolt CBP-C1 -- din't know about rebranding!!! and CP-E4 -- purchased when I didn't know about Bolt!!!) and I have Eneloops (2000mAh) / Eneloop XX batteries (2400mAh)) but I still feel that the recycle time got slower towards the end of the wedding. I believe I also have a decent charger that can do reconditioning / soft charging (Powerex Maha MH-C801D)

That's why I was thinking about getting the Cheetah instead but before I do that I would probably try replacing all Eneloop batteries to Eneloop XX batteries instead of a mix..




  
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Aug 01, 2013 11:00 |  #19

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I have been using these batter packs (I have both Bolt CBP-C1 -- din't know about rebranding!!! and CP-E4 -- purchased when I didn't know about Bolt!!!) and I have Eneloops (2000mAh) / Eneloop XX batteries (2400mAh)) but I still feel that the recycle time got slower towards the end of the wedding. I believe I also have a decent charger that can do reconditioning / soft charging (Powerex Maha MH-C801D)

That's why I was thinking about getting the Cheetah instead but before I do that I would probably try replacing all Eneloop batteries to Eneloop XX batteries instead of a mix..

Do you have your speedlites set to use the internal batteries only to support the electronics?
That may help.
My personal test to see if the AAs need replacing is to fire a test at M 1/1 and count the recycle to see if its appreciably longer than when the batteries are fresh.

The Cheetah will definitely get you through even a really long wedding. :-)


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Aug 01, 2013 13:30 |  #20

dmward wrote in post #16172597 (external link)
Do you have your speedlites set to use the internal batteries only to support the electronics?
That may help.
My personal test to see if the AAs need replacing is to fire a test at M 1/1 and count the recycle to see if its appreciably longer than when the batteries are fresh.

The Cheetah will definitely get you through even a really long wedding. :-)

Thank you for this suggestion, I will definitely check. I don't think I changed the default settings of my speedlites.

I think I will probably end up the the Cheetah (it is currently out of stock), I really need that much power -- sometimes I have a need to fire flashes at full power or almost full power at wedding reception to create the look that I want.

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Aug 01, 2013 13:45 |  #21

nathan_wong wrote in post #16173046 (external link)
Thank you for this suggestion, I will definitely check. I don't think I changed the default settings of my speedlites.

I think I will probably end up the the Cheetah (it is currently out of stock), I really need that much power -- sometimes I have a need to fire flashes at full power or almost full power at wedding reception to create the look that I want.

thanks again!

Then the Cheetah is the best bet.


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Aug 01, 2013 16:00 |  #22

nathan_wong wrote in post #16173046 (external link)
Thank you for this suggestion, I will definitely check. I don't think I changed the default settings of my speedlites.

I think I will probably end up with the Cheetah (it is currently out of stock), I really need that much power -- sometimes I have a need to fire flashes at full power or almost full power at wedding reception to create the look that I want.

thanks again!

Nathan: You probably checked the website yesterday or very early today. It's recently been updated and the L4500 is now shown as IN stock (21:59 GMT 1 August).


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Aug 01, 2013 16:37 |  #23

I'm going with the Godox battery packs with a couple of extra batteries.




  
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Aug 01, 2013 16:37 |  #24

Whortleberry wrote in post #16173423 (external link)
Nathan: You probably checked the website yesterday or very early today. It's recently been updated and the L4500 is now shown as IN stock (21:59 GMT 1 August).

Yep, just ordered one! If all goes well, three more will follow! :D




  
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Aug 09, 2013 12:56 |  #25

dmward wrote in post #16172597 (external link)
Do you have your speedlites set to use the internal batteries only to support the electronics?

I had no idea this was possible. Even with a 580EX I? Curious. Can you share a little more about how to do this?

Some great info in here guys.


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Aug 09, 2013 16:09 |  #26

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I had no idea this was possible. Even with a 580EX I? Curious. Can you share a little more about how to do this?

Some great info in here guys.

I'm pretty sure it can be done with the 580EX and sure it can be done with the 580EXII and 600EX-RT.
Its a custom function. different number on each flash so you'll have to check in the manual.


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Aug 10, 2013 11:56 |  #27

The Loft Studios wrote in post #16167838 (external link)
Since I use the Canon Battery Packs like yourself (I have 4 of them along with 48 recharbles), I'm never concerned about my battery life for my flashes.....

I do concern with your fingers,
it's hot taking out batteries from the charger,
and knowing that you need to look into it after 8 to 10 hours,
and then you have 48 batteries means 6 times put it in and take it out while HOT

also,
you got to keep it in place after using it and separate or labeled it differently,
you can not throw away used batteries, right ? wasting time !
(some part where I did not use rechargeable AA and using Alkaline,
like that easily throw away used alkaline and put the new batteries into the flash,
don't have to worry about put it in the storage again)

and for 6 times charging it could be 3 days ahead of charging all the batteries with 1 charger

Oh, well,
been there done that, it is PAIN !

using rechargeable from Quantum and other similar product definitely better,
you have more time and not wasting time taking care "small batteries"

I'm never concerned about battery for my flashes


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Propac PB960 head x12, PB960 battery x10
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Aug 10, 2013 12:00 |  #28

ejicon wrote in post #16194405 (external link)
I had no idea this was possible. Even with a 580EX I? Curious. Can you share a little more about how to do this?

Some great info in here guys.

flash custom function menu,
if your camera above EOS 40D,
you could open camera menu and look for flash settings,
open custom flash settings, there is a part mentioned about using external power only

based on my experience,
not much difference, recycle time still "stupid" compare to Barebulb flash,
like Quantum, Godox or Cheetah

dmward wrote in post #16173089 (external link)
Then the Cheetah is the best bet.

only for Godox or Cheetah barebulb and speedlites,
Cheetah or Godox Propac is not totally compatible to Quantum flash

some error like check Turbo showing on the display


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Propac PB960 head x12, PB960 battery x10
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Aug 11, 2013 09:10 |  #29

tongki wrote in post #16196533 (external link)
only for Godox or Cheetah barebulb and speedlites,
Cheetah or Godox Propac is not totally compatible to Quantum flash

some error like check Turbo showing on the display

Interesting.
I presume that's with Quantum cable. Wonder if there is an extra pin used for signaling that the Propac doesn't support. Charge status indicator?


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Aug 11, 2013 09:40 |  #30

I have another battery pack question. Does anyone know if you have your flash set to use the internal batteries only for the screen, and then you unplug the external pack, will the flash automatically start using the internal batteries?


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