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Feb 24, 2014 00:39 |  #1591

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Thanks Erik, I appreciate the input. DROBO uses their own flavor of RAID5 which has the flexibility of adding different sized drives. Others may also do this but they do it in a sort of no-muss-no-fuss arrangement with some other useful features.

It also means you are up !@#$ creek if it has any hiccups. Stick with the standard RAIDs, IMO.


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Feb 24, 2014 05:47 |  #1592

Well, i think i will stay with my old parts for now, 5 desktops and 4 laptops are a lot, so i have no plan to buy newest parts again for another build, whenever i need to upgrade i will.

The only thing that will make me worried of my computers is if i will start doing very heavy tasks, such as editing videos or doing giga panos, what do you think i need if i go that far level?


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Feb 24, 2014 06:36 |  #1593

tkbslc wrote in post #16712557external link
It also means you are up !@#$ creek if it has any hiccups. Stick with the standard RAIDs, IMO.

That's always confused me - what exactly are the standard RAIDS? RAID5 which DROBO uses has been around for many years.

What's nice about the new 5D DROBO is you can have it loaded with three physical hard disks, one of those can fail and the system will automatically rebuild itself as soon as you replace the failed device. They still recommend an off-site backup though as further "insurance."


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Feb 24, 2014 06:57 |  #1594

sapearl wrote in post #16712905external link
They still recommend an off-site backup though as further "insurance."

IMO you should always have an off site backup. Having your files backed up is good but if stored in the same location a fire or flood can quickly take out both copies. And with the large portable hard drives available these days it makes it really easy to do.


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Feb 24, 2014 07:00 |  #1595

silvrr wrote in post #16712931external link
IMO you should always have an off site backup. Having your files backed up is good but if stored in the same location a fire or flood can quickly take out both copies. And with the large portable hard drives available these days it makes it really easy to do.

Absolutely agree with this philosophy. For years I've had one of those little WD Passports that came to work with me on a daily basis ;)


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Feb 24, 2014 09:22 |  #1596

sapearl wrote in post #16712905external link
What's nice about the new 5D DROBO is you can have it loaded with three physical hard disks, one of those can fail and the system will automatically rebuild itself as soon as you replace the failed device. They still recommend an off-site backup though as further "insurance."

That is RAID5 - a striped array of redundant data configured so that any one failed device won't kill the array.

There are a variety of standard RAIDsexternal linkfrom level 0 to level 6 that have various combinations of mirroring and striping to improve speed and reliability.

The difference may be in the implementation. I like using the Adaptec products because I know they are internally compatible. If I create a RAID 5 on a 5405, for instance, and the card fails then I can replace the card with another, newer version of the same card or any card from that family and the controller will pick up on the metadata in the array (indicating configuration, etc.) and nothing will be lost.

I don't have the same confidence for DROBO or for any of the onboard RAID solutions.

Since the entire reason I use RAID is for confidence I'm going to maximize that with proven alternatives.

The nice side benefit of buffered RAID cards is that they perform better than most other solutions too...


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Feb 26, 2014 21:47 |  #1597

Here it the current build that I am working on. This rig will be running OSX and I may add dual boot at some point.

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Nov 06, 2014 22:27 |  #1598

I need to replace my PC I built 10 years ago, it was loaded at the time, even got an IPS monitor from Dell (same as the Apple Cinemas), used only the best parts and it still runs Win7 and PS CC 2014 (I even did a 120 layer edit on this machine with 2GB ram LOL).

But it's served it's time. Last autumn I tried to go mac, but ended up going back, to PC, as all 3 iMacs I bought had defective screens (dead pixels, then colour grading (blue to yellow), then a huge smudge inside). The OS is elegant, but after being a Windows user for 18 years it was hard to get used to (limitations especially with video as there are no apps to quickly cut/edit avi,wmv, mp4's for the mac, my go to is AviDemux but the mac version was buggy has hell, I think because it's not supported on Mavericks or newer). Also my go to email for 15 years is through Outlook.com (my ISP moved us over a few years ago keeping same email accounts) and on the PC using Office 2013 I can sync emails, contacts and seamlessly using Exchange Activesync, which is NOT available on a mac, even with the Office for Mac software. (ironically Activesync works with the iPhone, so my email and contacts and calendars work fine).

But to the point, I may just build my own PC again, but unlike when I used to do it all the time 10 years ago, the number of motherboard (and chipset), CPU, and memory options has grown exponentially.

What would be a good start for a high end motherboard with the latest chipset, not overclocking or extreme gaming, but something that is fairly "future proof" as my Asus A8N Deluxe was 10 years ago? And a good 4GB video card that is fast, but not necessarily the fastest 980 (I prefer Nvidia and still don't know why Apple went with the AMD GPU instead of the new much faster, lower power 9xxM's from Nvidia).

I know it's a lot to ask but I figure I would try. I'm having a really hard time spending $4k cdn with tax on a iMac (it's not even maxed out).

I know I can't match the iMac's screen, but even two good 27" 1440p IPS screens would be nice (maybe even 24" 1440p IPS).

Just brainstorming here.

Btw, I kind of like the white cases like Bumgardnern's Prodigy, or the Phantom case (which is much bigger).


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Nov 07, 2014 12:46 |  #1599

Well, I've been in your shoes. Being an IT guy, you know I'm all Windows :) ! But last months I finally made a switch and got a Mac. Well, up to this day I've never looked back. In fact, I could do tons of network programming via Terminal to write my bash scripts. As for the specs, you don't only pay for them. You pay for the whole Mac-OS. It runs smooth on minimal hardware. I've also installed Parrallels being afraid of Mac OS initially :) This gives me a chance to use my same desktop via Win environment with Windows 10 Beta.
I think for typical photography you'll need:
- Core i7 4790 or faster
- 16Gb RAM (could do with 8Gb though)
- nVidia 740 or faster video card (doesn't have to be over 2gb)
- SSD - a must if converting Tiffs to Jpegs to Raw e.t.c.
A nice screen obviously is required.


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Nov 07, 2014 15:36 |  #1600

Thanks bikfoto. What size SSD did you get? That's a big conundrum IF I go to the mac. The Fusions look good but there are some downfalls (Bootcamp would be HDD only). I want to use at least Parallels since the Mac does not have any good small video editing software. By that I mean things like Avidemux or Virtualdub for easily cutting up avi, wmv, mp4, mkv files (or quickly converting them). Or at least I didn't find any (Avidemux is there but no real support once Mavericks arrived, it was buggy and slower on the i7 iMac I tried than my 10 year old athlon PC)

I often have to cut up and edit avi, mp4 files especially, and reoutput without reencoding (something that's easy on Windows).

Maybe the odd game too, I never have more than one at a time on my PC (heck I haven't played any in 6 years probably, but would be nice for a break with a powerful computer).

Thanks for the feedback bikfoto.


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Nov 10, 2014 07:49 |  #1601

CPU: Intel i52500K
CPU Cooler: Cheap stuff $30 or something
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 pro B3
GPU: MSI 4G 970GTX
Memory: 8 GB Ram Corsair Vengeance
Hard Drive: Samsung F3 spin point
Power Supply: Corsair 750W
OS: Ultimate 7 64 bits
Case: HAF 932
Display: Samsung Syncmaster S24B300
Speakers: Creative T50
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Nov 10, 2014 11:31 |  #1602

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AMD Radeon R9 M295X, 4 GB GDDR5

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Nov 10, 2014 11:57 |  #1603

Bang for the bucks - Reliability - Performance - Future upgrade ability - etc... Would the Dell XPS 8700 Intel Core i7-4790 Quad Desktop for $799.99 has the edge over custom build?

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Nov 10, 2014 16:30 |  #1604

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Bang for the bucks - Reliability - Performance - Future upgrade ability - etc... Would the Dell XPS 8700 Intel Core i7-4790 Quad Desktop for $799.99 has the edge over custom build?

I have not worked on a Dell desktop in a long time, but from what I remember the upgradeability was an issue due to limited chassis, PSU, etc. Having said that, I don't think you'll have problems with adding disks to the system.


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Nov 12, 2014 13:25 |  #1605

DiMAn0684 wrote in post #17263597external link
I have not worked on a Dell desktop in a long time, but from what I remember the upgradeability was an issue due to limited chassis, PSU, etc. Having said that, I don't think you'll have problems with adding disks to the system.

Not anymore. I've upgraded 3 XPS 8700's with no issues even though they come in med towers. Added 2nd SSD, video, ram, PSU, and still plenty of room.


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