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iMac 5K + Lightroom issues

 
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Oct 30, 2014 21:12 |  #1

Hey all, just got my retina iMac with 32gb ram, 4ghz i7 and 295x gpu running. All is good except that lightroom is running super slow. Didn't have this problem with my last imac with an i7, upgraded gpu and 32gb ram so I'm super stumped. I've checked all of the settings that I have customized in the past but no luck. Problems are as such prosessing full RAW files from a 5D3

Spinning beach ball for about 5 secondsafter I make a crop and click done or enter

All other adjustments are stupid fast (instand) just the crop tool going unbearable slow.


Am I crazy or do you have a suggestion? PS, I've tried every setting of screen scaling and It doesn't affect performance of crop tool.


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Oct 30, 2014 21:14 |  #2

I've read all the lightroom articles on speeding it up over the past 5 years as well...

Everything is lightning quick except the crop tool. I'm sick of this crop. =)


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Oct 31, 2014 16:31 |  #3

So I guess thats a big negatory on any help...


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Oct 31, 2014 16:55 |  #4

gh patriot wrote in post #17244413external link
So I guess thats a big negatory on any help...

the number of people that have just purchased a brand new iMac and use LR and have visited this forum on this board in the last 19 hours is infinitesimally small. Patience grasshopper.


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Nov 12, 2014 21:02 |  #5

How about now? Found two other forums with the same issues.
https://forums.adobe.c​om/message/6917900external link
http://www.lightroomfo​rums.net ...e-on-retina-iMac&p=156517external link


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Nov 12, 2014 21:22 |  #6

Its not just the 5K. I have LR4 and a 2013 27"iMac and I found since I switched to Yosemite, things have gotten slower.




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Nov 14, 2014 17:52 |  #7

I can say I have the same issues. I'm using an early-2008 Mac Pro and thought it was just because my computer was old. I have absolutely zero issues editing in general, even massive files in PS crop just fine (2GB+ files) and no lag. Seems Lightroom is just behind on the times on utilizing the computer's resources properly. Out of all my applications, Lightroom develop module is by far the worst/slowest. Everything else runs flawlessly.

For what its worth, I edit on a 4K screen as well. But seems that has nothing to do with slow downs.


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Nov 19, 2014 01:51 |  #8

gh patriot wrote in post #17242859external link
Hey all, just got my retina iMac with 32gb ram, 4ghz i7 and 295x gpu running. All is good except that lightroom is running super slow. Didn't have this problem with my last imac with an i7, upgraded gpu and 32gb ram so I'm super stumped. I've checked all of the settings that I have customized in the past but no luck. Problems are as such prosessing full RAW files from a 5D3

Spinning beach ball for about 5 secondsafter I make a crop and click done or enter

All other adjustments are stupid fast (instand) just the crop tool going unbearable slow.


Am I crazy or do you have a suggestion? PS, I've tried every setting of screen scaling and It doesn't affect performance of crop tool.

I went over to the Adobe and Apple forums, you are not alone on this. HUGE lag with 5K iMacs and Lightroom when cropping. Initially Adobe blamed Apple (especially Yosemite). Apple or Adobe confirmed it was due to the large number of pixel data and that if you made the Develop module smaller that would speed things up. Needless to say that didn't make anybody happy.

Ah yes, those are the threads!


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Nov 19, 2014 01:52 |  #9

the flying moose wrote in post #17268661external link
Its not just the 5K. I have LR4 and a 2013 27"iMac and I found since I switched to Yosemite, things have gotten slower.

Yeah, Yosemite seems like a real bugger when it comes to slowing things down, especially GUI related.


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Nov 23, 2014 15:11 |  #10

I found that when I switch the resolution in the Display menu of system preferences to 2560x1440(low resolution) that performance is back to normal because it is basically turning the retina into an non retina imac display. Also, when I shrink the Lightroom window down in size to 1/2 to 1/3 the performance returns to normal which as other forums have concluded means that Lightroom can't process the vast amount of pixels effectively yet. Here is yet another thread with the same issues addressed. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/in​dex.php?topic=95017.0external link

If you add 4 or five seconds of spinning beachball to each image when cropping on a 500 image wedding, the time really starts to add up in a hurry.


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Nov 24, 2014 22:51 |  #11

I wonder if the slowdown is really because of LR, or the hardware not being able to handle that many pixels?

I was at an Apple Store the other day, looked at 3 iMacs, couldn't find the retina display until I went into the Display info and it told me. LOL. My gf and I couldn't see the difference really unless we looked REALLY close (ie, heads up to the monitor).

And yes, I agree, those seconds really add up!


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Nov 25, 2014 18:06 |  #12

Drisley, that's complete crap. Night and day difference between the retina and non-retina.

FYI: If you want to speed up yosemite, turn off transparency.


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Nov 25, 2014 19:30 |  #13

ScMedic, you are entitled to your opinion, but calling my opinion "complete crap" is uh "complete crap" and just plain rude.

My gf and I looked at 3 iMacs to try to find the retina display and couldn't until we went into "Display Information" or whatever it's called on a Mac. Then we further compared and I saw a difference with my head 4 inches from the monitor, a small one, but I did see it. She never did and just went along with me. We both have perfectly fine vision. Perhaps it was the bright lights of the Apple store, maybe I would have noticed more at home (I'm sure I would), but that was what I saw, just relaying it here. A good friend of mine across the country said the same, but he also says going from his "retina equivalent tablets" to his normal computer displays, he doesn't notice a big difference. That's not saying there isn't a huge difference to some people but to me and my gf, we did not see one at the Apple Store. As they say, YMMV. I have an iPhone 4s with "retina" and I don't see a big difference in clarity vs my 7 year old IPS monitor.

There WOULD be a difference when opening say, a full resolution image, for more real-estate, but I did not do that. Unfortunately that seems to be part of the issue with LR (too many pixels),and why I went from almost pulling the trigger on a new iMac to now either waiting or building my own PC again. I'm also dismayed that a brand new ultra powered computer has issues with transparency, when my 10 year old PC that I build myself has been running transparency all decade with no issues (OS X looks very much like Windows 7 that I've had installed since it was released, full transparency, flat icons, super fast GUI). I'm only running 1080p, but it's still sad that a 10 year newer machine has issues with something as ancient as transparent windows. From what I've read, it's due to poor code in Yosemite. Opengl (or was it OpenCL) performance for GUI took a huge drop in Yosemite vs Mavericks in benchmarks. I read a bunch of this on the Apple forums. Again, sad for me because I WANT that all-in-one display.

http://forums.macrumor​s.com/showthread.php?t​=1807948external link

Just as I was told when the D700 and newer cameras came out just how mind blowing the LCD screens were compared to the old ones (like my 1D3), I went to a store and had a look and noticed a small improvement, but wasn't blown away at all.

To each his own. I respect that some think there is a "night and day difference" with the new retina display. I looked hard and didn't see it. Difference? Yes! With my face up to the screen. But huge difference otherwise, no. Still a nice display for sure.


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Nov 25, 2014 22:48 |  #14

Fair enough. :)


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Nov 26, 2014 01:33 |  #15

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