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Dec 11, 2014 10:41 |  #31

Mike wrote in post #17326459external link
His opening two sentences in the latest article:

"Photography is not an art. It is a technology."

Oh boy! :rolleyes:

It doesn't get any better if the more you read ...


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Dec 11, 2014 13:43 |  #32

Mike wrote in post #17326459external link
His opening two sentences in the latest article:

"Photography is not an art. It is a technology."

Oh boy! :rolleyes:

Yep, and there is no technology in painting or sculpture... Guess that titanium white that is used and beloved by so many painters in the last century has nothing to do with technology. Or improvements in metals to make chisels hold their edge longer...

I'm kind of guessing this writer really enjoys his lead-white...


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Dec 11, 2014 15:42 |  #33

I agree with him in just one aspect, that whoever thought that any photograph was worth $6.5 million needs to see a specialist. That doesn't mean that I'm not impressed with that image, because I am. I just don't think that any photograph is worth that much.

But I don't see that value in "true" art either. I've never seen a painting that I thought I'd be willing to mortgage my life away for, and I have seen the Last Supper in Milan, toured the Uffizi Gallery in Florence. I've seen some very impressive work, but I still don't find the value in it. My eye is probably just not well enough trained to see it.


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Dec 11, 2014 16:07 as a reply to Preeb's post |  #34

It isn't so much the art itself as the limited availability since the artist is probably dead. Sure a photo by Adams isn't THAT different than a shot anyone could take - but you are owning a piece of history.

Same with anything collectible really. An autographed Jordan jersey isn't valuable because of the textile and sharp ink used to make it. But the history and exclusivity is where the value is.


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Dec 11, 2014 16:39 |  #35

Preeb wrote in post #17327016external link
My eye is probably just not well enough trained to see it.

I think that more likely that your wallet isn't trained to shell out a few million without you thinking about your bank balance.


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Dec 11, 2014 17:40 as a reply to Luckless's post |  #36

There would be no bank balance long before I got to a "few" million. :rolleyes:


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Aug 27, 2015 18:47 |  #37

It is interesting to me that he has seen many people deeply engaged with observing and appreciating photos at a gallery showing:

"I recently joined the crowds at the Natural History Museum’s wildlife photographer of the year. It’s amazing how long some people can look at a photograph. I observed the observers, rapt before illuminated images that I really can’t look at for more than a few seconds."

Yet, he continues to say that photos look "stupid" on a gallery wall. It should be clear to him that this was only his own opinion, because it differs so much from what he observed. Instead of making blanket statements (in which the statements were presented as absolute truth), he should have continually qualified his remarks by adding phrases such as, "to me", or "I feel as if", or, "in my opinion". The fact that he failed to qualify each and every statement that was merely his opinion makes him a very poor writer, in my opinion.

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I will agree somewhat with one point he makes:

"Paintings are made with . . . material complexity, textural depth . . . A good painting is a rich and vigorous thing. A photograph, however well lit, however cleverly set it up, only has one layer of content. It is all there on the surface."

What makes paintings and many types of drawing so great is the build-up of texture. I was at a gallery show last weekend. A local ledger artist was there displaying some of her better pieces. Her medium is prismacolor on antique ledger paper. What made her work so cool looking was the color layering. Something would generally look orange from a modest viewing distance. Then, when I got closer, I could see that there were other colors in there under the orange. Then, when I got really close, I could see that she worked many different complimentary colors into the area that was primarily orange. There were base layers of purplish hues, then there were, of course, yellows and reds underlaying the orange. Then the orange itself was not just one tone of orange, but it consisted of multiple oranges. What made her colors look so rich and deep was the fact that she built up many layers of prismacolors to arrive at that orange.

This is simply impossible with straight photography, as there is not an actual physical depth to the photograph itself. One can try to add physical depth after the fact by printing on textured paper or canvas, but the actual medium used to record the image is a two-dimensional medium, while many paintings and drawings employ three dimensions in the actual creation of the image. Heck, in some oil paintings the paint itself can be as much as 3/8 of an inch deep over some portions of the canvas!


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