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Wondering ... from Canon to Sony

 
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Jan 07, 2015 23:09 |  #61

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Jan 08, 2015 09:04 |  #62

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17370561external link
The main reason to make the switch would be for the size and weight savings imo. You also gain the EVF which can be extremely useful once you get over the short comings (slight lag, blackout after each shot). Being able to see your DOF, exposure compensation and WB all before taking the shot can be really handy. You also gain the ability to use virtually any lens out there on your camera, which is great if you're not opposed to MF (which is relatively easy to do on the a7).

haven't held a DSLR for almost 2 years now but isn't that one of the main differences between a SLR and RF camera? You'll always get a blackout as the mirror goes up?


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Jan 08, 2015 09:17 |  #63

taemo wrote in post #17372222external link
haven't held a DSLR for almost 2 years now but isn't that one of the main differences between a SLR and RF camera? You'll always get a blackout as the mirror goes up?

Yes, you get a blackout, but it's much shorter than what you get when using a mirrorless body in my experience.


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Jan 08, 2015 11:17 as a reply to EverydayGetaway's post |  #64

Well it also depends what shutterspeed youre using. Isnt there a camera which lets you see the image while exposing? I think the a7s, not?


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Jan 08, 2015 13:02 |  #65

The A7S has a silent mode which does away with shutter sound entirely and the exposure seems like a very short dimming of the view--I'm talking almost instantaneous, it's so short. And whichever camera you might play with--except the A7 II--I can't say on that one since I don't have it and will wait to see what is up the line--the shutter sound is really only a sound. You can see a shutter function, viewing it without a lens in place, but the sound is the same regardless of the duration of the exposure. Of course, there is no shutter at all in the A7S silent mode, only that slight dimming.


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Jan 08, 2015 15:14 |  #66

advaitin wrote in post #17372536external link
The A7S has a silent mode which does away with shutter sound entirely and the exposure seems like a very short dimming of the view--I'm talking almost instantaneous, it's so short. And whichever camera you might play with--except the A7 II--I can't say on that one since I don't have it and will wait to see what is up the line--the shutter sound is really only a sound. You can see a shutter function, viewing it without a lens in place, but the sound is the same regardless of the duration of the exposure. Of course, there is no shutter at all in the A7S silent mode, only that slight dimming.

I considered the same jump as the OP. Called Adorama, had everything ready to go. Then, I rethunk! And after rethunking, decided that the A7S, which I was pondering, didn't offer enough gain to make the switch. The 6D is a fabulous camera. Sharp as h*ll, fast enough for what I do, so why bother. I guess I was looking for something that still doesn't exist.




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Jan 08, 2015 17:05 |  #67

eddieb1 wrote in post #17372725external link
I considered the same jump as the OP. Called Adorama, had everything ready to go. Then, I rethunk! And after rethunking, decided that the A7S, which I was pondering, didn't offer enough gain to make the switch. The 6D is a fabulous camera. Sharp as h*ll, fast enough for what I do, so why bother. I guess I was looking for something that still doesn't exist.

I did do the move, I still have the 6D but will go for sale soon as well as most of my canon lenses

Why ?, simple, while the 6D is to me a superb camera, I must make a "decision/chore" to take it with me, it's big and heavy and quality lenses are big as well, so it ends up staying home 99% of the time

The A7R with the Voigtlander 35 1.2 for example is small enought to fit on my small ipad+wallet bag I carry daily, and gives me a heck of a performance, so now I see that instead of having a superb camera at home, I have one on my bag, as as they say, the best camera is the one you have with you.

I also find that when I am out and about in the city with the A7R, that I shoot more anonymously, people don't notice me, take the 6D + 24-70 out, and everybody notices, harder to get candid moments.

Heck, try to get a 6D out on a restaurant to take a pic of your kid, everybody frowns :)

I don't think the A7R is perfect yet, loud shutter and crap finish (loving the finish on the A7II), lacks GPS that I love (I don't but the added bulk excuse, even phones have it), but it feels like it's a great start ! Looking forward to the next version, but enjoying and taking photos with the current one :)


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Jan 08, 2015 17:10 |  #68

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That's strange.. I have a 6D as well and I find them pretty similar, though I've spent way more time with the a7r than the 6D. It's possible I just haven't put them both in a situation yet where the 6D would outperform that a7r. Though now that you mention it, I almost never look at an image without NR applied.. they're cleaned up before I get my first look at them.

Maybe I'll go back and turn NR off on some shots and compare.

When I started to shoot with my A7R I started to look for and notice noise at high ISO (I limit at 6400), I was disapointed that I felt it was worse than the 6D

Then I looked on my old shots with the 6D and I see the noise there too, but seems I never bothered to see it before until I got the A7R .. Funny ... Sometimes you only notice things when you read about them :)


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Jan 08, 2015 17:33 as a reply to eddieb1's post |  #69

With the interchangeable adapters, I didn't change or switch, I added to my collection. Different tools for different purposes.


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Jan 08, 2015 17:43 |  #70

advaitin wrote in post #17372900external link
With the interchangeable adapters, I didn't change or switch, I added to my collection. Different tools for different purposes.

Same here.. I love (LOVE!) my a7R, but I don't think I can ever ditch the dSLR. a7R is for fun, Canon gear is for business.


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Jan 08, 2015 18:35 |  #71

NullMind wrote in post #17372868external link
I did do the move, I still have the 6D but will go for sale soon as well as most of my canon lenses

Why ?, simple, while the 6D is to me a superb camera, I must make a "decision/chore" to take it with me, it's big and heavy and quality lenses are big as well, so it ends up staying home 99% of the time

The A7R with the Voigtlander 35 1.2 for example is small enought to fit on my small ipad+wallet bag I carry daily, and gives me a heck of a performance, so now I see that instead of having a superb camera at home, I have one on my bag, as as they say, the best camera is the one you have with you.

I also find that when I am out and about in the city with the A7R, that I shoot more anonymously, people don't notice me, take the 6D + 24-70 out, and everybody notices, harder to get candid moments.

Heck, try to get a 6D out on a restaurant to take a pic of your kid, everybody frowns :)

I don't think the A7R is perfect yet, loud shutter and crap finish (loving the finish on the A7II), lacks GPS that I love (I don't but the added bulk excuse, even phones have it), but it feels like it's a great start ! Looking forward to the next version, but enjoying and taking photos with the current one :)

Amen. As I type this I'm standing in line at Chipotle with my a7R and Olympus PEN F 38mm slung over my shoulder, nobody's even given it a second glance, had it been a DSLR many people would be wondering why I had it and giving me weird looks (spoken from experience).

NullMind wrote in post #17372881external link
When I started to shoot with my A7R I started to look for and notice noise at high ISO (I limit at 6400), I was disapointed that I felt it was worse than the 6D

Then I looked on my old shots with the 6D and I see the noise there too, but seems I never bothered to see it before until I got the A7R .. Funny ... Sometimes you only notice things when you read about them :)

It's not the noise of the a7R ISO that bugs me, it's the muted colors, color casts and random color artifacts, never had any of those with the 6D.


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Jan 09, 2015 08:42 |  #72

advaitin wrote in post #17372900external link
With the interchangeable adapters, I didn't change or switch, I added to my collection. Different tools for different purposes.

Same here. I wanted to replace my 6D but i think its better to keep both. I will see if i use the 6D enough in a few months. If yes, ill keep it if not ill sell it with my 16-35, 135L and 70-300 and get me some fe lenses to replace (16-35, 55, 70-200)


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