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prarts
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May 13, 2015 03:51 |  #1051

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May 13, 2015 05:39 |  #1052

Wide open at f1.2. I really wouldn't want it any sharper, particularly for portraits.

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May 14, 2015 05:44 |  #1053

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May 14, 2015 07:01 |  #1054

A few from a senior session last summer.

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May 14, 2015 08:14 |  #1055

In my opinion, the last 3 posts highlight perfectly the 50L
- F1.2 just isn't tack sharp anywhere - you can't get the eye tack sharp (that is fine for a 'look' but most of the time?)
- F 1.8 you absolutely can get a tack sharp area
- F2 for portraits is a nice sweet spot if you want good sharpness and good bokeh
- F2.8 gets you far, far better sharpness in the corners than F2 and is a very useful aperture

My personal experience is that F1.4 is the aperture where you can go to for crazy bokeh and still get that tiny bit of crispness for certain artistic portraits with the 50L whereas you can go to F1.2 on the 85L.


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May 14, 2015 09:37 |  #1056

^ Couldn’t agree with you more. Well said.

Debating if I should return my 50L. But then, what’re the other options? Any thoughts?


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May 14, 2015 09:43 |  #1057

I've had this lens for a while I find at 1.2 works in some situations. I find 1.6 is very good and 2.0 and on is sharp.

This is an entire album of shots with the 50 1.2. Some at 1.2 and many in the 1.6 to 2.8 area.
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May 14, 2015 09:53 |  #1058

p360 wrote in post #17556051external link
^ Couldn’t agree with you more. Well said.

Debating if I should return my 50L. But then, what’re the other options? Any thoughts?


I'm a huge 50L fan so it would be my #1 choice. The Sigma is more contrasty / more clinical at F1.4 but the 50L has that quality that is 'je ne sais quoi' that has made it stand the test of time. I'm not a L lens snob but I also am in certain situations. The day is coming when mirrorless will take over and all these magic L lens will be replaced by the next L lens - until that day, the 35L, 50L, 85L, 135L are the standard pro primes within the Canon world - but Sigma sure does make far, far better lens than they use to - and I love their 18-35 1.8 on my 7D2 and C100 - that is a great lens.


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May 14, 2015 10:39 |  #1059

"Most of the time" I'm not looking for tack sharpness. I'm not looking for crazy bokeh, either. I'm just looking for a decent image that is composed well and evokes a nice feeling. My common f-stops for the 50L are 1.2, 1.4, 1.6, 2.0, 3.5, and 7.1. Even though there is some softness at 1.2, I'm don't think it matters all that much. No one has ever told me a photo at 1.2 looks bad due to it being a little soft... because the photo itself sucks is another matter, though.  :p

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17555961external link
In my opinion, the last 3 posts highlight perfectly the 50L
- F1.2 just isn't tack sharp anywhere - you can't get the eye tack sharp (that is fine for a 'look' but most of the time?)
- F 1.8 you absolutely can get a tack sharp area
- F2 for portraits is a nice sweet spot if you want good sharpness and good bokeh
- F2.8 gets you far, far better sharpness in the corners than F2 and is a very useful aperture

My personal experience is that F1.4 is the aperture where you can go to for crazy bokeh and still get that tiny bit of crispness for certain artistic portraits with the 50L whereas you can go to F1.2 on the 85L.


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May 14, 2015 11:03 |  #1060

Sigma is an interesting one, but the sample variations with the inconsistent focus issue worry me. I hear that Sigma has come a long way, but still.

I tested 50L on our dog the other day. I took ten photos, all at f/1.2, and I got decent results with these three.

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May 14, 2015 13:37 |  #1061

p360 wrote in post #17556051external link
^ Couldn’t agree with you more. Well said.

Debating if I should return my 50L. But then, what’re the other options? Any thoughts?

I wouldn't sell it. The size and weather sealing are big advantages (FOR ME...for you they may not mean much, in that case, I would go for the Sigma).


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May 14, 2015 13:40 as a reply to cali92rs's post |  #1062

Ditto. 50L is a wonderful lens to me, too. If anyone wants great sharpness, then the Sigma Art seems to be the lens of choice. I don't think I hear much about focus variation, either; if there is, then the Sigma dock can help with that.


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May 14, 2015 13:40 |  #1063

p360 wrote in post #17556167 (external link)
Sigma is an interesting one, but the sample variations with the inconsistent focus issue worry me. I hear that Sigma has come a long way, but still.

I tested 50L on our dog the other day. I took ten photos, all at f/1.2, and I got decent results with these three.


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I would bump up the ISO a few more stops and use faster shutter speeds. Remember, this lens has no IS, so you want to keep your shutter speeds as fast as possible... and I wouldn't hesitate to go to ISO 800 or 1600 with your 5DIII.


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May 14, 2015 14:21 |  #1064

cali92rs wrote in post #17556359external link
I would bump up the ISO a few more stops and use faster shutter speeds. Remember, this lens has no IS, so you want to keep your shutter speeds as fast as possible... and I wouldn't hesitate to go to ISO 800 or 1600 with your 5DIII.


Duly noted. And agreed with the higher ISO on 5DIII.

I like the way 50L renders image. It’s a combination of resolution, contrast, colors, etc. It’s not just one thing. I think I’ll keep the L. :-)

Thanks, guys!


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May 14, 2015 18:41 as a reply to x.pozhr's post |  #1065

All you have to do is shoot in AV, go into ISO setting and set the minimum shutter speed to 1/60
Auto ISO and the camera does all the rest.


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