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Jan 06, 2015 15:56 |  #1

Today I shot in the last minutes of light a cardinal with the A6000 + Swarovsky 95mm digiscope, focal length approx. 2000mm, manual focus of course, using peak focusing0

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Jan 06, 2015 16:12 |  #2

Nice sharp shot, a pity it was in the shade. Having done digiscoping in the past, I acknowledge just how difficult it is.


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Jan 06, 2015 18:20 |  #3

But it sure is fun.


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Mar 06, 2015 21:09 |  #4

how are you attaching the camera to the scope?


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Mar 09, 2015 00:26 |  #5

There are many ways to attach camera to the spotting scope.
One method I use is here:
http://www.digiscopead​apter.com/home.html (external link)
This is the easiest way when I'm using the A6000:
http://www.optics4bird​ing.com ...O-lnNrDmsQCFY9m7Aod7nAA5​g (external link)
The digiadapter link first will work with an EOS body but I use it with a Lumix GH4.
Yet another way, and a way that works with almost any point and shoot is also by Swarovski-they sure are trying to
address the needs of the modern digital digiscoper-
http://www.optics4bird​ing.com ...OTluoDEmsQCFcpZ7Aod​sCcACQ (external link)
When talking about digiscoping I always link to this pic, just to show what can be done detail wise-

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Mar 09, 2015 01:52 |  #6

Which do you like better for digiscoping. you want the best still images: GH4 or A6000.


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Mar 09, 2015 10:25 as a reply to bigcountry's post |  #7

Bigcountry I don't know just yet, I'm still weighing the two against each other. We've got a long trip
coming up so it will be probably April before I can more fully pit the two against each other. I will
say that the master of digiscoping chose the GH4, Tara Tanaka, and she surely can have any camera
she wants.
For me I'd bet that it would depend on what kind of trip I was going on, how far I'd have to carry the gear,
and what other types of photography would present....here's why- say I plan on 'scoping still images at
distance BUT later in the way want to do BIFs handheld. In this case I'd choose the A6000, it has better
tracking autofocus, this I know and have experienced.
For those who'd say the IQ is better with the APS-C sensor (A6000 for any reading this who don't know
what sensor this Sony has) than the m4/3s sensor I'd argue that the small size difference between the
two shouldn't make a difference to any photographer that knows what he/she is doing.
Same with ISO performance. In my mind neither are great, yet neither are poor either. You just have to
know the limitations of each when the light drops. Neither will ever perform ISO wise like a FF.
Now some advantages to consider with the GH4. The 'apparent' DOF is real, e.g. F2.8 on the m4/3s is
in 35mm reality F5.6 and this makes a big difference in getting focus on marginal shots, like when you
were close but not quite there when getting on target.
Another HUGE benefit of the GH4 is the 4K photo mode and/or recording in 4K video and extracting that
super cool shot that could only have been gotten at 30 frames/sec.
Here is a pic I got via 4K photo-

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Is it 5Diii quality? NO but weight wise I'm good with the IQ.
Tara Tanaka has embraced 4K photo and 4K video with image extraction, 'harvesting' if you will, a great example posted somewhere is the two bunnies
kissing in the air---only possible using this method.
I've mentioned this prior somewhere, a co-worker told me video was cheating! I said to him so its ok to hold down the shutter button with say a 7Dii and
grab at 10 frames a second but not ok when pushing the video button and getting 30 frames a second? HA! Ansel Adams said use all the tools!
Now know that Panasonic is working on 8K video. This will mean you can 'harvest' images at 16megapixel; versus 4K Photo at 8megapixel.
Stopping now...I do ramble on.
Go here, its a great podcast, scroll down and you'll see pics she's gotten with the GH4 AND the bunnies I do believe where via 4K Photo mode.
Hope all this is helping you.

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Mar 09, 2015 13:43 as a reply to MedicineMan4040's post |  #8

yes it is helpful. i have heard the podcast, i also created the thread over on the bird forum:

The Ultimate Digiscoping Rig....

nobody seems to say a definitive camera. I have it narrowed down to the a6000 and gh4.


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Mar 09, 2015 13:55 |  #9

^I don't think you can go wrong with either.
Go ahead and think of which lens you might choose.
I use the 35 1.8 on the A6000 and the 20 1.7ii on the GH4.
In the end don't you think it a niche within a niche within a niche?
So few in the big scheme even entertain thoughts of 'camscoping'.


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Mar 09, 2015 14:18 as a reply to MedicineMan4040's post |  #10

Well i have the TLS APO.


but i would possibly buy the digidaptor as well. Which one gives you more scope the a6000 + 35mm 1.8 or the 20 1.7 + GH4...or due to crop factors are they about the same?

Also panasonic is releasing a 42mm 1.7 soon....so that would in theory increase the focal length/zoom.


i hate making these decisions.


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Jul 29, 2015 14:52 |  #11

Sorry I forgot this thread Bigcountry....what did you decide on.
I digiscoped this morning with the GH4 + 20mm 1.7ii.
Using the Digidaptor it is an easy fit.

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Jul 31, 2015 20:23 |  #12

well, i bought the sony a6000, panasonic gh4. kept the gh4, then gave up digiscoping.

sold the 65mm swaro x.

have the 85mm + stx eye piece for sale

keeping the atx eyepiece + 95mm objective.


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Jul 31, 2015 21:28 |  #13

Wow you jumped ALL in. D'scoping certainly isn't for everyone. I like it in small doses :)


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Nov 12, 2015 15:47 as a reply to MedicineMan4040's post |  #14

Hi

I have the ATX 95, Sony a6000 with Swaro APO. Earlier I had the Nikon D7000 with same equipment.
My question and issue :), is that with the Nikon I had a small/narrow T2 adapter which gave "ok" focus area.
Now with the Sony a6000 I only have found a much wider/deeper T2 adapter... I feel this gives me a very narrow focus area, and thus my digiscoping has been on hold for quite some time now... :), due to too many unsharp photos.

Any ideas if my conclusion is correct? Same experience or have you found any better T2 adaptors that gives better focus area?

Hope you can assist :)

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Nov 15, 2015 22:00 |  #15

Spear I'm out of the country now and will try to remember to look at my Diging rig when I get back to the US. I can't remember witch
adapter I use with my A6000 + APO.
Are you focusing manually?
This might show my simple approach but when Diging I do everything manually inclulding focus and exposure settings. I often have the A6000 in machine gun mode as far as frames per second and will 'rack' focus during the 'attach' then in post choose the image I want.
This is the same approach used by GH4 owners who are shooting in 4K photo mode. I'd done this with my GH4 but have sold it and obtained a GX8....I'll give it a go with my Diging rig when I get back in 4K Photo mode. I wish I could have taken the rig on this trip but weight weight weight :(


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