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Aug 04, 2015 15:04 |  #76

Archibald wrote in post #17656400 (external link)
... Why do many users still cling to XP?...

I still have two XP machines. One is our internet surfing condom. (If it gets infected, who cares, just reload and go. It's also our skype machine. THe other is our home server. Lots of drives and not much else. It backs up, and serves files. Old, slow, but rock solid.


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Aug 04, 2015 16:12 |  #77

gjl711 wrote in post #17656429 (external link)
I still have two XP machines. One is our internet surfing condom. (If it gets infected, who cares, just reload and go. It's also our skype machine. THe other is our home server. Lots of drives and not much else. It backs up, and serves files. Old, slow, but rock solid.

Yeah, I still have two laptops running XP. I don't think they will ever be upgraded because they are old and slow. But they run fine.


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Aug 04, 2015 17:30 |  #78

I'm the odd man out I guess. I installed Win10 over 8.1 on an ultrabook. It ran fine, but at some point required me to log in again. But it won't let me log in - tells me my password is incorrect. I can log into anything else from other computers, but not the ultrabook. Seems like it isn't an isolated case - I've read of similar issues. I'll try re-installing win10.


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Aug 05, 2015 07:12 |  #79

iowajim wrote in post #17656610 (external link)
I'm the odd man out I guess. I installed Win10 over 8.1 on an ultrabook. It ran fine, but at some point required me to log in again. But it won't let me log in - tells me my password is incorrect. I can log into anything else from other computers, but not the ultrabook. Seems like it isn't an isolated case - I've read of similar issues. I'll try re-installing win10.

Just know that if you reinstall 10 again over the existing 10 installation you will eliminate the ability to roll back to 8.1. You may want to explore other options first like password recovery or even clone the drive before proceeding.

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Aug 05, 2015 12:17 as a reply to scobols's post |  #80

Even though my password is correct, I've thought about some password bypass software to get my computer back. Right now, I can't do a thing with the computer. It appears to be a known issue, so I trust MS will save me.

I stopped short of re-installing Win10 since I don't have a key for it. The free upgrade was based on my 8.1 key, and I don't think they are the same number.


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Aug 05, 2015 15:23 |  #81

iowajim wrote in post #17657539 (external link)
I stopped short of re-installing Win10 since I don't have a key for it. The free upgrade was based on my 8.1 key, and I don't think they are the same number.

Once you've done the upgrade, you can do a clean install of Windows 10 on that same machine and it won't need a code since Microsoft will already know that machine's been upgraded.




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Aug 05, 2015 15:27 |  #82

mike_d wrote in post #17657759 (external link)
Once you've done the upgrade, you can do a clean install of Windows 10 on that same machine and it won't need a code since Microsoft will already know that machine's been upgraded.

That's what I was hoping to do. I have not done a clean install in almost 2 years so it's about due.


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Aug 05, 2015 17:26 |  #83

I am interested to know how resource hungry is Win 10 in comparison to Win7 Sp1?
I should add on "reasonable to medium" speced PCs

Is it slower or faster?


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Aug 05, 2015 18:49 as a reply to mike_d's post |  #84

Dang! Can't get the computer to boot from the flash drive. Resetting the computer now...


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Aug 05, 2015 19:04 |  #85

Submariner wrote in post #17657883 (external link)
I am interested to know how resource hungry is Win 10 in comparison to Win7 Sp1?
I should add on "reasonable to medium" speced PCs

Is it slower or faster?

On my newer systems Win 8.1 and 10 boot much faster than Win 7 SP1, mainly because the newer hardware supports faster booting. On my older system(LGA1366 based, high end when it was bought) I didn't see much performance difference from 7 to 8.1, same with 8.1 to 10. Resource wise, yet again, not enough to matter on my PC's.


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Aug 05, 2015 20:39 |  #86

Well, it looks like my problem with updating my Surface Pro 2 is due to a hardware issue causing Intel Management Engine Interface to fail. It's all boxed up ready for UPS to MS tomorrow morning.

Looks like I'll get a brand new Surface Pro 2 in exchange.

OTOH I upgraded my oldest PC yesterday and it went flawlessly. Only downside was losing Media Center :(


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Aug 05, 2015 20:51 |  #87

I've been using Windows since 3.1 or probably before that, I think Vista was the one of the worse, I went from XP to 7 then to 8-8.1 and now running 10.

So far, the best Windows version since XP... I like the more "modern" UI on 10 vs any other older versions.


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Aug 06, 2015 10:29 |  #88

You can do a clean install right off the bat. Just use the Windows 10 media creation tool to download and create an installation USB drive. Then go to that USB drive and run Setup.exe. Then select the option to keep nothing.




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Aug 06, 2015 11:38 |  #89

cuongduong wrote in post #17658631 (external link)
You can do a clean install right off the bat. Just use the Windows 10 media creation tool to download and create an installation USB drive. Then go to that USB drive and run Setup.exe. Then select the option to keep nothing.

Doing that asks for a product key, which you won't have unless you purchased a copy of Windows 10. To get the free upgrade, you must upgrade over your existing Win7/8 installation. Once you've upgraded a machine, you can reload it clean.




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Aug 06, 2015 12:55 |  #90

mike_d wrote in post #17658702 (external link)
Doing that asks for a product key, which you won't have unless you purchased a copy of Windows 10. To get the free upgrade, you must upgrade over your existing Win7/8 installation. Once you've upgraded a machine, you can reload it clean.

Quick question, once upgraded, can you scratch install the same drive? I am cloning my drive first, then upgrading, but I would like to start with a clean system so I was then planing to re-format the freshly scratched drive and do a scratch install but that will also remove the key. From what I think I understand, the record of the upgrade sits on some MS server so if I do the scratch, it will still recognize it as a legit copy. Am I thinking right?


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