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Aug 03, 2015 19:42 |  #121

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Aug 05, 2015 21:56 |  #123

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Just kidding, haha – incredible shot! :-P


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Aug 05, 2015 23:11 |  #124

Plenty of details on this old building in downtown Jacksonville. I'm trying not to go above F/8.0 on this body to avoid diffraction, but I don't have an 82mm filter adapter ring so I was shooting with just the bare lens and needed more blur.

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Aug 06, 2015 05:55 |  #125

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Plenty of details on this old building in downtown Jacksonville. I'm trying not to go above F/8.0 on this body to avoid diffraction, but I don't have an 82mm filter adapter ring so I was shooting with just the bare lens and needed more blur.

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Beautiful facade shot of the theater!
I don't worry about stopping down to f/11. In fact no matter what aperture you use you'll always have proportionally more detail than using the same aperture on a 5D III. F/8 is indeed a nice sweet spot though.


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Aug 06, 2015 16:01 |  #126

My partner, a wedding officiant, did what I call a guerilla wedding whereby the couple shows up at a 'public' location and gets married right there in 5 minutes. The location in Toronto is on the lake (Ontario) in an area called The Beaches - except this spot is at the very, very end of The Beaches and just happens to me a water treatment facility called the RC Harris Water Treatment Plant. It is and sort of isn't open to the public because there are people walking around taking pictures, walking their dog, etc. Anyways, the wedding took place on a Tuesday and just as they were about to start there was a biblical downpour so I lent a few umbrellas to the very small group (bride and groom, 6 immediate family and the photog). There just happens to be a little stone dock that protrudes out into the lake that would have made for great pictures but with the rain and then the lightening it just did not happen. I was passing by the area today and with perfect weather I wanted to take a few panos and the building and location are really amazing for what it is.

If you happen to have any clients looking for a guerilla wedding - that dock would make a great location.

I exposed for the sky, brought shadows up and added a bit of vibrance going for a very slight HDR look. There are two single exposure pictures and 3 panos.


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5DSR with 24-105 @ 24mm @ F8

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Hockey and wedding photographer. Favourite camera / lens combos: a 1DX II with a Tamron 45 1.8 VC, an A7Rii with a Canon 24-70F2.8L II, and a 5DSR with a Tamron 85 1.8 VC. Every lens I own I strongly recommend [Canon (35Lii, 100L Macro, 24-70F2.8ii, 70-200F2.8ii, 100-400Lii), Tamron (45 1.8, 85 1.8), Sigma 24-105]. If there are better lenses out there let me know because I haven't found them.

  
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Aug 06, 2015 16:21 as a reply to  @ wallstreetoneil's post |  #127

Interesting facility. When I first glanced at it, it reminded me of the San Quentin Prison shoreline. Which, by the way, would not be a good place to conduct a guerrilla wedding.  :p :-D



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Aug 08, 2015 10:29 |  #128

two from today......Still hard to handhold this camera ....took 50 shots today and only had these two that were keepers.... All the others had some degree of camera shake !...And I didnt shoot under 1/250th with IS on the 100-400mk2!......Either my handheld technique sucks and I need to brace better or I need to start using a tripod/monopod more..............Alth​ough having said that Im still amazed at the level of detail that shows in the images that I get right.....Even at normal sized image for screen viewing I feel there is an added depth to the image Im not seeing with any of my other cameras.....

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Aug 09, 2015 08:46 as a reply to  @ clipper_from_oz's post |  #129

EVEN WITH IS, the old rule is still going to apply regardless of the camera. Use the reciprocal of your focal length as your shutter speed. I know, I know... occasionally a good shot comes out with IS at slower speeds, but it's probably easier, and more successful, to accept a higher ISO and shoot at 1/400-1/800 with that lens. I have the V1 of the 100-400 and I share the same frustrations, in addition to the 100-400 simply not being the greatest piece of glass manufactured by Canon. Images, even at ISO 100 still grainy or hazy, and typically I have to accept that I can never release an image at full size coming out of that lens.

Of course, with this camera you may just be able to accept an underexposed image and then recover in post. Still going to be grainy, though. Ever consider a long range flash?


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Aug 09, 2015 10:05 |  #130

clipper_from_oz wrote in post #17660936 (external link)
two from today......Still hard to handhold this camera ....took 50 shots today and only had these two that were keepers.... All the others had some degree of camera shake !...And I didnt shoot under 1/250th with IS on the 100-400mk2!......

When Canon says that the IS on a camera is X number of stops, I assume that it means that their figure is in line with the acceptable amount of blur in an image viewed at the same size as the "1 over focal length" rule for 35mm film, calmly shooting an immobile subject. These rules do not take into account things like subject motion, or the time it takes for the camera and/or IS to stabilize after you quickly move the camera from one viewpoint to another, tracking a subject, or starting to shoot a new one in a "panic" (shoot it before it is gone).

The minimum practical shutter speed also needs to include subject motion, and the amount you're going to magnify at display time.

Even if you are shooting still subjects, calmly, if you want to take full advantage of your pixel density, you may need to use speeds faster than the 1/fl rule, or the rule modified for IS.

For shooting birds with my 400 mm lens, my usual lowest speed is 1/800 for the subject, and any tracking jerkiness, even with IS, and much higher for BIFs. Sometimes I'll use TCs to make it 1120mm, and I only raise it to 1/1000 or 1/1250, because that 1/800 at 400mm is for the subject, not the lens.




  
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Aug 09, 2015 19:44 |  #131

BobbyMartin wrote in post #17661961 (external link)
EVEN WITH IS, the old rule is still going to apply regardless of the camera. Use the reciprocal of your focal length as your shutter speed. I know, I know... occasionally a good shot comes out with IS at slower speeds, but it's probably easier, and more successful, to accept a higher ISO and shoot at 1/400-1/800 with that lens. I have the V1 of the 100-400 and I share the same frustrations, in addition to the 100-400 simply not being the greatest piece of glass manufactured by Canon. Images, even at ISO 100 still grainy or hazy, and typically I have to accept that I can never release an image at full size coming out of that lens.

Of course, with this camera you may just be able to accept an underexposed image and then recover in post. Still going to be grainy, though. Ever consider a long range flash?




Re 100-400Mk1/2. IS

As I mentioned in an earlier post I too had the Mk1 100-400. It was so hard to use handheld . Infact when I first got the 5dsr It was that frustrating that I rang Canon Professional Services here in Australia for some tips and they just said to upgrade to newer IS and handheld would be better because of the newer Mk2 IS allowed extra 2 stops over the MK1 . so I bit the bullet and got one. Mind you it still meant going higher in ISO than I norrmally like (old iso 800 max now is now approx 1600 ISO max)...So thats been better and the glass seems even better than my good old trusty Mk1 dustpump...But even upgrading to Mk2 handheld with this 50Mp beast means shoot on bright days only handheld ( using no less than 1/500th IS and probably is01200-1600) and if overcast bite the bullet and use at minimum a monopod with some sort of gimbal.

Re Long range flash

Funny you mention that...I was sitting in the local park on Sunday wondering about that als0 when I was seeing how hard it was to get decent light /shutter/iso combos for moving wildlife......I was getting that frustrated I was thinking I wonder if there is such a beast as a long range "portable flash"! :)......BTW Ive never been a fan of flash but I was that strapped for good available light for handheld at reasonable iso speeds that I started to day dream on how that would be feasible hahaha. I also thought about a video I saw once of a bloke who shot a low flying Jet with his hasselblad from the ground using portable strobes.....But from memory they were huge strobes mounted on poles...which really isnt that portable when you think about it :)....

Anyway....I suppose I will just persevere at getting handheld shooting technique better than it is now .. BTW.....I told a mate of mine the other day that using this 50mp camera is like playing golf...... Its that one great shot ( out of hundreds of bad ones) that keeps you going back!......:)


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Aug 09, 2015 19:58 |  #132

John Sheehy wrote in post #17662042 (external link)
When Canon says that the IS on a camera is X number of stops, I assume that it means that their figure is in line with the acceptable amount of blur in an image viewed at the same size as the "1 over focal length" rule for 35mm film, calmly shooting an immobile subject. These rules do not take into account things like subject motion, or the time it takes for the camera and/or IS to stabilize after you quickly move the camera from one viewpoint to another, tracking a subject, or starting to shoot a new one in a "panic" (shoot it before it is gone).

The minimum practical shutter speed also needs to include subject motion, and the amount you're going to magnify at display time.

Even if you are shooting still subjects, calmly, if you want to take full advantage of your pixel density, you may need to use speeds faster than the 1/fl rule, or the rule modified for IS.

For shooting birds with my 400 mm lens, my usual lowest speed is 1/800 for the subject, and any tracking jerkiness, even with IS, and much higher for BIFs. Sometimes I'll use TCs to make it 1120mm, and I only raise it to 1/1000 or 1/1250, because that 1/800 at 400mm is for the subject, not the lens.


Jeez overcoming Subject motion...thats another topic in itself !! haha....ANd then couple that with IS stabilizing lags and that spells handheld doom to me hahahaha:)


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Aug 09, 2015 20:40 |  #133

clipper_from_oz wrote in post #17662727 (external link)
BTW.....I told a mate of mine the other day that using this 50mp camera is like playing golf...... Its that one great shot ( out of hundreds of bad ones) that keeps you going back!......:)

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