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Wedding photos without flash strobes ect

 
jcolman
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Nov 01, 2015 03:39 |  #16

I'd like to expand on this post a bit. While I assume that the intent of the original question was to see some shots taken without any artificial light, I strongly believe that going "au natural" is the exception rather than the norm if one wants to create images that are more than simply "documenting the wedding".

Here are some examples.

B&G intro. Three lights set up to insure that I was able to cover the stairs and dance floor. You never know where the subject will be for the defining shot.

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First dance. I turned off (remotely) all lights but one.

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Looks like natural light right? I added a light firing thru an umbrella camera left

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Two lights used. No way was I going to capture this shot with only using available light

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Same with this photo. One light used.

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But this one is all natural light.

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Bottom line, photography is all about light. Without good light you got nothing. Spend some time (and money) leaning how to use lights and you will never have to make excuses again as to "why the photo didn't come out"

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memoriesoftomorrow
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Nov 01, 2015 03:42 as a reply to jcolman's post |  #17

Guess I just document weddings ;)

I'll take that :p


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jcolman
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Nov 01, 2015 04:27 |  #18

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #17767647 (external link)
Guess I just document weddings ;)

I'll take that :p

And you document them very well. ;) But let me ask you what do you do when the lights go down? I mean, way down. Or it's nearly pitch black outside but the couple wants photos?


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Nov 03, 2015 11:01 |  #19

Hi jcolman,

Are you using speedlights or something larger?
beautiful work.

jcolman wrote in post #17767646 (external link)
I'd like to expand on this post a bit. While I assume that the intent of the original question was to see some shots taken without any artificial light, I strongly believe that going "au natural" is the exception rather than the norm if one wants to create images that are more than simply "documenting the wedding".

Here are some examples.

B&G intro. Three lights set up to insure that I was able to cover the stairs and dance floor. You never know where the subject will be for the defining shot.

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[IMAGE'S LINK: http://s182.photobucke​t.com ...-715_zps56cbf6d6.jpg.ht​ml] (external link)

First dance. I turned off (remotely) all lights but one.

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[IMAGE'S LINK: http://s182.photobucke​t.com ...-725_zps56d84f7c.jpg.ht​ml] (external link)


Looks like natural light right? I added a light firing thru an umbrella camera left

Two lights used. No way was I going to capture this shot with only using available light

Same with this photo. One light used.

But this one is all natural light.

Bottom line, photography is all about light. Without good light you got nothing. Spend some time (and money) leaning how to use lights and you will never have to make excuses again as to "why the photo didn't come out"


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Nov 03, 2015 14:51 |  #20

DisrupTer911 wrote in post #17770817 (external link)
Hi jcolman,

Are you using speedlights or something larger?
beautiful work.

Thank you. I use Cheetah lights. A tad bit larger than speed lights but they have the ability to recycle nearly instantly. They also allow for more options with light modifiers. Best of all, I can control the output of each light individually from the transmitter on my hot shoe.


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Nov 03, 2015 15:13 |  #21

jcolman wrote in post #17771040 (external link)
Thank you. I use Cheetah lights. A tad bit larger than speed lights but they have the ability to recycle nearly instantly. They also allow for more options with light modifiers. Best of all, I can control the output of each light individually from the transmitter on my hot shoe.

Thanks!

So full manual control then.
Do you just set the lights to a specific setting then adjust your camera settings or vice versa? I use those same lights w/ power controller trigger too, so I think I just need to get faster at adjusting.


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jcolman
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Nov 03, 2015 15:25 |  #22

DisrupTer911 wrote in post #17771074 (external link)
Thanks!

So full manual control then.
Do you just set the lights to a specific setting then adjust your camera settings or vice versa? I use those same lights w/ power controller trigger too, so I think I just need to get faster at adjusting.

Yes, full manual control. I set the power to the lights where I think they should be, then shoot a test shot or two and adjust the power from there. I usually only adjust the lights, as I want to be able to set my camera to capture all, some or none of the ambient light first.


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Nov 24, 2015 21:32 as a reply to jcolman's post |  #23

Mr Colman,.......UDAMAN !!
Always enjoy you photo postings.
Excellent, sir!
Ken


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Dec 15, 2015 16:42 |  #24

Slightly odd question from the OP - I would think "most" wedding photographers shoot without flash right?


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Dec 17, 2015 15:40 |  #25

mckay photography wrote in post #17820211 (external link)
Slightly odd question from the OP - I would think "most" wedding photographers shoot without flash right?


Short of being outside on an overcast day, all the weddings I've shot I use both ON-camera and OFF-camera flash techniques.


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Dec 18, 2015 11:31 |  #26

Jon Tinkler wrote in post #17765027 (external link)
As others have said, find the even or interesting light, or not - depending on what you have going for you. Sometimes you can't pick and choose, sometimes you need to use a load of fill flash on a really bright day to not have everything blown out.

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Dec 25, 2015 12:46 |  #27

As others said above, "find the right light." A favorite method of mine is to shoot from dark to light - put the subject in shade but with the background in sun...

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Dec 25, 2015 15:22 |  #28

mckay photography wrote in post #17820211 (external link)
Slightly odd question from the OP - I would think "most" wedding photographers shoot without flash right?

Not sure where that view comes from. All weddings and events need fill light. I've 41 years in the game and every wedding needs fill light.


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Dec 25, 2015 20:15 as a reply to LincsRP's post |  #29

I've shot most of my 200+ without it. The only time my flash comes into play for me is during the reception.


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Dec 26, 2015 15:11 |  #30

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #17832430 (external link)
I've shot most of my 200+ without it. The only time my flash comes into play for me is during the reception.

So you do use flash then?


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