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Jan 12, 2016 05:23 |  #16

I would rather recommend starting out by getting the Adobe Creative Cloud subscription.
It's 9.99 USD per month and for that price you get the latest versions of both Lightroom and Photoshop.

I started out using Gimp, then Canon DPP and Paint Shop Pro, but it was when I switched to Lightroom (I use this for 95% of my editing) and Photoshop (Only for some rare editing) that I really started to notice a great leap in the quality of the images that I edited. Of course some of the improvements are also because I got better at taking pictures, but still I would not hesitate to recommend Lightroom.


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Jan 12, 2016 06:59 |  #17

I learned Lightroom the way an earlier poster suggested. I sat down and started using all the sliders.

I had previously tried watching tutorials but they all explained what the sliders did... none of them seemed to explain why I would want to use them. So I sat down and used them all and watched what they did creatively together and apart so that I could understand why I would want to use them. The neat thing about Lightroom is that its parametric editing system means that nothing you do affects the original RAW file (unless you select the Delete command). Everything can be changed or undone/reset so playing around with sliders is zero risk. The ability to create Virtual Copies also means you can try multiple different editing approaches without filling your HD with massive files.


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Jan 12, 2016 07:32 |  #18

I am new to photo processing as well. I looked online at recommended sources for lightroom and a number of folks recommended George Jardine at http://mulita.com/blog​/ (external link)

I decided for myself that Lightroom was a good place to start in that I needed a way to both store and organize my photos as well as post process.

I bought the 3 pack dvd set that George sells that include "The Lightroom 4&5 Library", "The Develop Module", and " Image Correction Master Class". He is very detailed and there are appx. 40 tutorials on the first two dvd's mentioned above that are 20-40 minutes long per each tutorial. So the information is very detailed.

For me, I see this as a project that will take some time to learn but if i put in the time a little at a time, I look forward to great progress.

Good Luck whatever you choose. Lot's of good ways to learn out there.




  
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Jan 12, 2016 08:09 |  #19

If you like video training, I find the Lynda training site to be extremely helpful. I highly recommend Chris Orwig's series on Lightroom.


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Jan 12, 2016 08:39 |  #20

Andrew S. Gibson also have a nice collection of eBooks on Lightroom: http://www.andrewsgibs​on.com/blog/mastering-lightroom/ (external link)

I have only read the first four in the series, but they give a nice guided tour of the features in Lightroom.


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Jan 12, 2016 12:38 |  #21

silvermesa1 wrote in post #17855009 (external link)
I am new to photo processing as well. I looked online at recommended sources for lightroom and a number of folks recommended George Jardine at http://mulita.com/blog​/ (external link)

I decided for myself that Lightroom was a good place to start in that I needed a way to both store and organize my photos as well as post process.

I bought the 3 pack dvd set that George sells that include "The Lightroom 4&5 Library", "The Develop Module", and " Image Correction Master Class". He is very detailed and there are appx. 40 tutorials on the first two dvd's mentioned above that are 20-40 minutes long per each tutorial. So the information is very detailed.

For me, I see this as a project that will take some time to learn but if i put in the time a little at a time, I look forward to great progress.

Good Luck whatever you choose. Lot's of good ways to learn out there.


Did you find the DVD's helped a lot or do you think you could have figured most things out on your own just by playing with it?




  
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Jan 12, 2016 12:40 |  #22

Also one other thing, should I be shooting in RAW as I have no editing experience. In the past all I have done is shot in jpeg and delete the ones I don't like and keep/print the ones I like.




  
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Jan 12, 2016 12:41 |  #23

Dan Marchant wrote in post #17854995 (external link)
I learned Lightroom the way an earlier poster suggested. I sat down and started using all the sliders.

I had previously tried watching tutorials but they all explained what the sliders did... none of them seemed to explain why I would want to use them. So I sat down and used them all and watched what they did creatively together and apart so that I could understand why I would want to use them. The neat thing about Lightroom is that its parametric editing system means that nothing you do affects the original RAW file (unless you select the Delete command). Everything can be changed or undone/reset so playing around with sliders is zero risk. The ability to create Virtual Copies also means you can try multiple different editing approaches without filling your HD with massive files.


And also chose the Delete from disk option, rather than the Remove from catalogue. So it is quite hard to to anything bad to your images in LR that is permanent. That reset button is a brilliant thing to have, hit it and everything is back to defaults.

I too love the options that VC's give you, they are the one thing that you don't get if you use Bridge/ACR as your image management and RAW processing system. ACR allows you to use Snapshots to have quick access to multiple different processing settings, but it's not nearly as flexible as VC's in LR. I don't know why Bridge could not do similar, all it would take is having multiple .xmp sidecar files for an image, with each one having a different set of processing settings.

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Jan 12, 2016 12:47 |  #24

marsh9077 wrote in post #17855365 (external link)
Also one other thing, should I be shooting in RAW as I have no editing experience. In the past all I have done is shot in jpeg and delete the ones I don't like and keep/print the ones I like.

Shot raw+jpeg. That way as your editing skills improve and you have an image you want to cook more, you have the raw file to work with. A lot can be done with jpeg images but a lot more with raw.


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Jan 12, 2016 12:54 |  #25

marsh9077 wrote in post #17855365 (external link)
Also one other thing, should I be shooting in RAW as I have no editing experience. In the past all I have done is shot in jpeg and delete the ones I don't like and keep/print the ones I like.

I would start with lightroom. I love photoshop but I started before lightroom was available and I now find myself doing things in LR that I isued to do in PS. You can always add PS when ligjtroom starts to limit you.




  
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Jan 12, 2016 21:05 |  #26

marsh9077 wrote in post #17855361 (external link)
Did you find the DVD's helped a lot or do you think you could have figured most things out on your own just by playing with it?


Well I think it depends on the person.

I'm 51 years old and just getting back into photography after being away for 25 years. I'm average with computers in general and a B student in college.
For me I cant imagine learning this without some type of help whether it is a book or dvd or classes. Other people who are really computer savvy with a photographic memory could probably just pick this up.

In regards to the dvd's I purchased I am pleased with them but I have not viewed some of the other options that could be great also. I will admit I have spent way more time just going thru these tutorials than I thought I would. I see this as a several year journey learning how to post process.




  
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