Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Read More.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Kids & Family Talk 
Thread started 16 Mar 2016 (Wednesday) 14:29
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Cake smash pp help

 
little_mcturtle
Member
64 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2011
     
Mar 16, 2016 14:29 |  #1

I did a diy cake smash for my baby girl but I'm getting some negative feedback. I'd appreciate any tips to help with processing and any tips in general (setup etc) if I decide to try it again.

IMAGE: https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1465/25210071304_a118418b85_b.jpg


IMAGE: https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1620/25814534756_f5c97e9802_b.jpg

Pre-processing
IMAGE: https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1650/25814604876_f97dda2967_b.jpg



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
ksbal
Goldmember
Avatar
2,254 posts
Gallery: 256 photos
Best ofs: 9
Likes: 1440
Joined Sep 2010
Location: N.E. Kansas
     
Mar 17, 2016 08:43 |  #2

I think the results look great, only the angle could be improved, getting her to bite front and center instead of from the side, but sometimes, enjoying the moment is way more important! Plus, you get what you get with kids, and I think anyone that doesn't like them needs to give it a try themselved! *LOL*


YN622 English User Guide/Manual by Clive
https://drive.google.c​om …Ig0gMMzZFaDVlZ1​VNTE0/view (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
neacail
Goldmember
Avatar
1,188 posts
Gallery: 43 photos
Likes: 437
Joined Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
     
Mar 17, 2016 09:17 |  #3

Hmm. I'm not excited about your results, but it is kind of hard to put my finger on why.

Focus looks like it might be a bit soft in the first one, and focus is off on the second one. Did you shoot in aiservo?

The framing seems off to me. I might like them better in landscape: with the cake beside her in the first one and seeing all of her and the cake in the second one. There might be too much space at the top of her head.

I don't know if that helps at all. I think it is a good first attempt, but that there is also room for some improvement.


Shelley
Image Editing Okay

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
little_mcturtle
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
64 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2011
     
Mar 17, 2016 21:10 as a reply to  @ neacail's post |  #4

I was shooting on one shot, not aiservo, but I had my aperture set at 1.8 or just a bit higher, so if I moved the wrong way I lost focus. I was trying to get as much of the light from the window as I could.

I'll try a few different crops and see if I can come up with something a bit more appealing.

I really appreciate the feedback!




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ksbal
Goldmember
Avatar
2,254 posts
Gallery: 256 photos
Best ofs: 9
Likes: 1440
Joined Sep 2010
Location: N.E. Kansas
Post edited over 2 years ago by ksbal. (4 edits in all)
     
Mar 18, 2016 08:46 as a reply to  @ little_mcturtle's post |  #5

The only other thing I can think of is her dress is wonderful, but kindof blends in with the background... so maybe a solid bg of a complement or contrast color would work better to isolate your subject. Solid color paper would be my go-to. The first picture is a great portrait and stands on it's own well. I'd allow for a looser crop, JMHO.

Strobes are good... window light is great when there is enough, but strobes with a fast recycle are wonderful in this type of situation.

Also, when you can get a cat to photobomb, well..

I should have taped down the blue better, but still I think these are fun.


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


YN622 English User Guide/Manual by Clive
https://drive.google.c​om …Ig0gMMzZFaDVlZ1​VNTE0/view (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
neacail
Goldmember
Avatar
1,188 posts
Gallery: 43 photos
Likes: 437
Joined Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
     
Mar 18, 2016 10:06 |  #6

little_mcturtle wrote in post #17939097 (external link)
I was shooting on one shot, not aiservo, but I had my aperture set at 1.8 or just a bit higher, so if I moved the wrong way I lost focus. I was trying to get as much of the light from the window as I could.

I'll try a few different crops and see if I can come up with something a bit more appealing.

I really appreciate the feedback!

Since Easter is around the corner, and that is such a pretty dress, maybe you could try an Easter themed shoot next instead of a cake smash (which is messy and can get expensive) to fine tune things? You could use an Easter basket or a fluffy stuffed bunny for props. :)

I'd suggest a slightly wider DOF. I like to see her face and the bow in her hair in focus. I'd also shoot in aifocus or aiservo with BBF, so that if she does move she'll stay in focus.

The framing that ksbal utilized is probably closer to what I'd like to see: to see all of her, and her dress, and the cake/props.

I think I'm okay with the background. It does match the dress and the cake, but with the shallow DOF there is good separation of subject and background. A solid colour might be nice to try, however.

The cake smash photos I did of my youngest son are dreadful. He didn't like the feel of the icing on his fingers, developed a look of horror on his face as he stared at his sticky fingers, and then burst into tears and started to scream.

It looks like your little one enjoyed her cake, so that counts as a significant success IMO. :)


Shelley
Image Editing Okay

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AuryGlenz
Hatchling
3 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 7
Joined Oct 2015
     
Mar 20, 2016 23:44 |  #7

The backdrop looks like a draped sheet, because that's kind of what it is. I think that's primarily the thing that's bothering me. I usually use a white seamless for it, and I think close framing works better than full body:


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Nathan
So boring
Avatar
7,696 posts
Gallery: 16 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 287
Joined Aug 2007
Location: Boston
     
Mar 21, 2016 11:29 |  #8

I'd love to do one of these some day.

Not sure what the rest in the series look like, but these crops I think are too tight. Even with cake smashes, there's a story to be told from beginning all the way to the messy end. You'll want to capture the reactions and the joy of diving into that cake. You also want to feature both subjects - the baby and the cake.

That said, it's always about composition, lighting and technique. Feel free to share the rest of the photos for compositional critique. If you were to reshoot this, then consider a solid background (the mottled background is too adultlike and dated, in my opinion). Consider the color and pattern of the background and floor in relation to her outfit. In terms of lighting, I think window light here looks a bit flat. It's not bad lighting, but nothing pops. In terms of technique, I might not shoot at f1.8. There's no reason to, really. You want most of what you're shooting in focus. For post processing, up the contrast and vibrance/saturation to make colors pop.


Taking photos with a fancy camera does not make me a photographer.
www.nathantpham.com (external link) | Boston POTN Flickr (external link) |
5D3 x2 | 16-35L II | 35 L | 50L | 85L II | 135L | 580 EX II x2

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
neacail
Goldmember
Avatar
1,188 posts
Gallery: 43 photos
Likes: 437
Joined Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
     
Mar 21, 2016 11:40 |  #9

AuryGlenz wrote in post #17942659 (external link)
The backdrop looks like a draped sheet, because that's kind of what it is. I think that's primarily the thing that's bothering me. I usually use a white seamless for it, and I think close framing works better than full body:


thumbnail
Hosted photo: posted by AuryGlenz in
./showthread.php?p=179​42659&i=i16045505
forum: Kids & Family Talk

The white seamless is nice, but I don't think your framing really captures the event. If is a nice portrait of a baby girl eating cake.


Shelley
Image Editing Okay

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AuryGlenz
Hatchling
3 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 7
Joined Oct 2015
     
Mar 21, 2016 15:35 as a reply to  @ neacail's post |  #10

The unfortunate thing about cake smashes is you never really know how the kid is going to react. If they're not Hulking out and smashing it (and in my experience that's pretty rare) I think messy portraits are the way to go. Of course, variety is the spice of life and all that, so be sure to get every perspective possible as you'll have time:


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
neacail
Goldmember
Avatar
1,188 posts
Gallery: 43 photos
Likes: 437
Joined Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
     
Mar 21, 2016 16:01 |  #11

AuryGlenz wrote in post #17943371 (external link)
The unfortunate thing about cake smashes is you never really know how the kid is going to react. If they're not Hulking out and smashing it (and in my experience that's pretty rare) I think messy portraits are the way to go. Of course, variety is the spice of life and all that, so be sure to get every perspective possible as you'll have time:


thumbnail
Hosted photo: posted by AuryGlenz in
./showthread.php?p=179​43371&i=i136814181
forum: Kids & Family Talk

I think this one is much more appropriate, as the context is very clear.


Shelley
Image Editing Okay

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mannetti21
Goldmember
Avatar
3,105 posts
Gallery: 111 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 347
Joined Sep 2010
Location: Connecticut
     
Jul 01, 2016 23:12 |  #12

I would agree that there is just something missing from these. The white balance might actually be spot-on, but I would warm it up a bit and see what it looks like. I would also bump the shadows and or exposure some more. Again, they may be technically exposed properly, but lately I've been finding that clients gravitate towards bright images.



My Buyer/Seller Feedback

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

9,359 views & 7 likes for this thread
Cake smash pp help
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Kids & Family Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is eyecancu
788 guests, 405 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6430, that happened on Dec 03, 2017

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.