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Mar 05, 2016 09:24 |  #1

I'm just starting to get into portrait as well as engagement session work. Currently I'm shooting with a 5D3 and my lenses consist of the 17-40, 24-70 VII, and the 70-200 VII. I'm contemplating dumping the 24-70 for the Sigma 50mm ART. I know I'll lose some versatility, but think the other two lenses will help cover that. The biggest reason I'm considering it is that as good as "The Brick" is I'd like to lighten the load a bit.

Thoughts???


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Mar 06, 2016 08:47 |  #2

Primes are fantastic for portraits and having a fast one is really useful. You might be losing a bit of versatility as far as focal length selection goes but like you said, you do have those other two zooms. Plus you'll be gaining a lot more control in terms of DOF and your bag will certainly be lighter too.

My only concern would be making sure 50mm is the focal length you want. For me personally, it's by far my most used focal length and I couldn't live without it but there are just as many here who feel that way about the 35L or one of the 85mm lenses. It couldn't hurt to scroll through one of the sessions you've done in LR to see what focal lengths you used most.


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Mar 06, 2016 09:06 |  #3

I love the 50 Art, but if I were you I'd keep the current kit, and add some faster glass as funds become available. When I read that word "engagement" and imagine all the times I'd need to switch from the Art to the 17-40, it just irritates me.


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Mar 06, 2016 11:14 |  #4

dcnats wrote in post #17925369 (external link)
Primes are fantastic for portraits and having a fast one is really useful. You might be losing a bit of versatility as far as focal length selection goes but like you said, you do have those other two zooms. Plus you'll be gaining a lot more control in terms of DOF and your bag will certainly be lighter too.

My only concern would be making sure 50mm is the focal length you want. For me personally, it's by far my most used focal length and I couldn't live without it but there are just as many here who feel that way about the 35L or one of the 85mm lenses. It couldn't hurt to scroll through one of the sessions you've done in LR to see what focal lengths you used most.

I did just that and found that the vast majority of the 400+ shots were very close to the 50mm mark. The others could easily be taken care of with a little zooming with my feet or switching lenses.


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Mar 07, 2016 17:41 |  #5

Fyi, the 24-70 vII is 805g and the Sigma 50 Art is 815g. If weight is your biggest reason, check again.


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Mar 07, 2016 18:09 as a reply to Tigerkn's post |  #6

Oddly enough it never occurred to me to actually check the weight of the 50 Art. I was going by reviews and raves on how good a piece of glass it is but the idea I should compare it's weight to my 24-70 v1 before even considering dumping one for the other escaped me.


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Mar 09, 2016 20:15 |  #7

If you don't already have a prime lens, you're nuts. Get the 50mm and thank me later.


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Mar 09, 2016 20:20 |  #8

Just to add to my above comment, quality of optics and bokeh fall-off (not to mention low-light speed) is far more important than versatility of focal length. I haven't used a 24-70 or 70-200 for years and have never regretted dumping them once.


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Mar 10, 2016 05:16 as a reply to vanmidd's post |  #9

I'm only just now getting into photographing people and I've been thinking the same thing. From what I've recently learned I wouldn't be saving any weight, but I do thing I may very well benefit in other areas. The quality of images produced with the prime are hard to ignore.


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Mar 10, 2016 05:17 as a reply to vanmidd's post |  #10

There's no chance in hell my 70-200 is going anywhere, it's still one of my favorite landscape lenses. But the 24-70, it's days may be numbered... ;-)a


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Mar 29, 2016 05:08 |  #11

Ditto what's been said already. I would lose the 24-70 and add a 35 Art and 85 of some variety. I use the Canon f1.8 :lol:.


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Mar 29, 2016 05:42 |  #12

Heya,

Hrm... so some thoughts for you perhaps.

17-40L - If a lot of your shots are at 50mm, have you considered how 40mm isn't much different? As long as you don't move closer to subject, there's no distortion (distance being the same) from 50mm, so at worst, you simply crop a wee bit to make up for the framing of composition. It's plenty sharp stopped down, as I assume you're shooting studio, and it's a very useful wedding lens as it is for groups. Not a heavy lens at all. Just something to think about really.

Tamron 45mm F1.8 VC - Basically a stabilized 50mm. The only one there is on the market for Canon. Very sharp, still quite fast if you need that, and of course, stabilization. It's half the weight of those F1.4 gems. And really, you'll be stopping down, so aperture isn't paramount. You'd be hard pressed to see a real difference at F2 and F2.8 between all the major current 50mm's. So, the benefit here is weight & stabilization, to which it has no rival yet.

Canon 50mm F1.8 STM - Cheap lens. If you know you want 50mm, and you're shooting stopped down in studio, this lens is nearly indistinguishable from a far more expensive lens at F8. Super light weight. So cheap, who cares? Just being real about shooting F8 when comparing $1k and $100 primes, as there's very little difference honestly.

That said, most people are going to focus on the wide aperture, bokeh properties, etc, but in your business, you're usually using lighting and stopping down a bit if not a lot, so I imagine F1.4 isn't really a big deal to you? If that's the case, and you're stopping down, this really levels the playing field for a lot of these costly and heavy lenses, as you really will find you do not need the aperture, and they're all really sharp at F8 (not that you want to count pores on a portrait!).

Canon 24-70 F4L IS - It's a 24-70, but only 600g, so you save 25% more weight, while keeping the same focal lengths, and you gain stabilization. Pretty sweet. You could trade it out and pocket a lot of cash too as these go cheap as kit lenses. Worth considering.

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Mar 29, 2016 06:34 |  #13

jsinon wrote in post #17930224 (external link)
There's no chance in hell my 70-200 is going anywhere, it's still one of my favorite landscape lenses. But the 24-70, it's days may be numbered... ;-)a

I still have my 24/70L mk1 but added the mk2 last year and it's shorter, lighter, and the front element doesn't move. The image quality (in my case) is up there with my 35 1.4L whereas the mk1 version is slightly soft wide open and at 24mm it isn't the snappiest for focussing.


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Mar 29, 2016 13:26 |  #14

I would never be without a 24-70 2.8 for weddings, it's my most used lens and has been for ten years of weddings. If you really want a 50mm prime add one and then if you don't use the 24-70 for say a dozen weddings then consider selling it.


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Mar 29, 2016 16:25 as a reply to tim's post |  #15

Tim, the thing is I have no, zero, nada interest in ever doing weddings. If I were I know I'd be foolish for giving up the flexibility of the 24-70.


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