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Is 1dIV are good upgrade from 1diii

 
TheLaird
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Apr 02, 2016 13:59 |  #1

I use my 1diii for rugby with 70-200 F2.8 Mkii. In most cases ISO 800 ish ... Once in a while I can get down to 400 and sometimes need to up if to 1600.

Is a 1DIV a worthwhile upgrade !

Or what should me next step be?


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Apr 02, 2016 14:17 |  #2

I'll think is the best thing you can do.
better AF , better image Quality (you will go from 10,1 mp to 16,1 mp , so you can crop a lot more)
I own one for about three years ,and i like it every time i use it.
If I need I'll go to iso 4000 as maximum Iso.


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Apr 02, 2016 14:28 as a reply to Weja's post |  #3

Dank u wel.


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Apr 02, 2016 15:25 |  #4

Alstublieft.:-)

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Apr 02, 2016 18:38 |  #5

A friend of mine is a Rugby photographer, here in the home of Rugby - South Wales (;-)a) and yes, good though the 1D3 is, the 1D4 is in a different league. It is just better, faster, better high ISO, AF, etc etc - and you can use your existing batteries too!


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Apr 02, 2016 20:27 |  #6

Agree with all above. The IV is just better at everything. The extra pixels for cropping is worth the upgrade alone.


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Apr 09, 2016 04:22 |  #7

At todays prices, its a yes. I would look for used 300 f2.8 somewhere along the way and a 1.4x converter wouldn't go amiss either

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Apr 09, 2016 04:44 |  #8

TheLaird wrote in post #17958338 (external link)
I use my 1diii for rugby with 70-200 F2.8 Mkii. In most cases ISO 800 ish ... Once in a while I can get down to 400 and sometimes need to up if to 1600.

Is a 1DIV a worthwhile upgrade !

Or what should me next step be?

I was in the exact same circumstances as you last year. I took some good advice from Johnf3f (also commented here) and on great information and help from John it helped me decide to purchase a 1d4. I absolutely love my 1d4. moving from a 1d3 you will pick it up immediately. It is a wonderful all round camera. What I can say is that you will not regret it. It is perfect for your 70-200 mk2. I eventually sold my 70-200 as I wanted more reach for bird/wildlife photography and now have a 500 f/4 and the 1d4 has permanently stayed on the lens. Despite the age of this camera it is more than adequate and I have no plans what so ever to change it.


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Apr 09, 2016 04:53 |  #9

Mpb are showing two, a rat at £750 and a minter at £1700 with 34k clicks on it. Bargain ߘ




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Apr 09, 2016 10:42 |  #10

Yes, the 1D4 is a good upgrade from the 1D3

I didnt like the Mk3 too much, i found they didnt focus reliably, and had WB issues too, they were an amazing step up from the mk2N when everything went right, but i found they wouldnt reliably be right.
For me, the Mk4 fixed all the issues of the mk3, and gave more MP and better high ISO
I had no issues with my mk4 at 6400, although i did prefer to keep the ISO as low as possible.


With the 1DX2 trickling out, it may be worth looking for a 1DX, they should have dropped in price recently, or be about too....
Only thing with the 1DX, and something that still irritates me at times, is the loss of reach over the 1.3 crop bodies.
You probably wont notice though, as you will still have more pixels on target even after a crop


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Apr 09, 2016 10:46 |  #11

You might consider a 7D2?


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Apr 09, 2016 16:42 |  #12

Good point FarmerTed.

I bought a 7D2 back in December and have been quite impressed with it. I bought the 7D2 as a lightweight camera for travel and as a backup to my 1DX. For the price I feel that it is an excellent camera. Personally I still prefer the 1D4 but that is purely subjective and I do prefer the brick outhouse build of the 1 Series - but they are VERY close in performance!

I think "The Laird" would be well advised to try both before deciding. I would go for the 1D4 but others may not.


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Apr 09, 2016 18:34 |  #13

I moved from a 1DMkIII to Mk4 for birds and wildlife and the Mk4 is in a different league. I love it Even if it did break 1 week after I bought it on ebay and needed the power supply board replaced. Works perfect since. :-)


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Apr 13, 2016 07:12 |  #14

I have upgraded to the Mk4 from the Mk3 I had no focus issues from the Mk3 but the Mk4 is
better in a few areas file size, speed and focus.
I still have both cameras and the files are slightly less grainy in shadow tones.
So in my opinion the upgrade was worth it.
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Apr 14, 2016 18:59 |  #15

If you cannot find a 1D4 at a good price and need something soon, a 7D2, as indicated prior, is a good alternative. I moved from a 1D4 to a 7D2, and it is easily 80% of the 1D4 in AF, burst, build, and ISO.

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