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Apr 25, 2016 10:52 |  #9736

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Apr 25, 2016 10:53 |  #9737

What did you use for the mist? ^^^^


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Apr 25, 2016 11:01 |  #9738

just a hand bottle.


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Apr 25, 2016 11:12 |  #9739

Wow great look and way to keep it simple


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Apr 25, 2016 11:55 |  #9740

very nice. I'm thinking of doing a similar shoot with my 4 year old. He's watched all of the Harry Potter movies. I even carved a couple of wands for him from wood using a dremel tool. I was thinking of picking up one of those $30 fog machines and seeing what trouble I can get into with it. :)


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Apr 25, 2016 12:10 |  #9741

I picked up a fog met last year with the intent on using it for a shoot and just haven't yet urrgg


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Apr 26, 2016 19:41 |  #9742

Heya,

It's been a while, been so busy with life. Anyhow, weather was cooperative and I had time off. My daughter is closing in on 3 years old this October, so we needed some new summer images to start the summer with, plus, her mother insisted since she bought & altered some new dresses and stuff. So, out we went to a local ditch where some black eyed susans were making a nice bed, on the side of the road at the end of the day, just after 6:30pm (Florida), for some warm evening light.

Equipment:

Camera: Canon 5D classic + Tamron 90mm F2.8 VC (Macro) + 58mm -> 77mm step up ring + Marumi 3 Stop ND Filter + Rubber Hood
Light: Rovelight 600B + Yongnuo YN603c transceivers (one on Rovelight via pc sync cable and velcro) + Sekonic L478D Light Meter
Modifier: Cheetah Boom Stand + Neewer 47" Octa Brolly Box + Bungees & Stakes & Counter Weight

I didn't use HSS for this session because when you have aboslutely limited time (falling light, and a 2.5 year old that may or may not cooperate and lose it), you have to make every second count. I can't meter in HSS. I knew I could get away with manual mode and a 3 stop ND filter on an F2.8 lens at normal sync speeds (1/200s, F2.8). I raised ISO to 200 to get ambient light back. I wanted the ambient light about 1 to just over 1 stop below exposure, I needed a 2 stop filter really, but I used a 3 stop and simply raised ISO by 1 stop to get me there. The rest was the Rovelight, which I metered one time (this was so nice... ). I had it at 1/16th power after a single adjustment and my distance was maybe 5~6 feet give or take a little bit since she moved around. I initially metered F4-ish with the Rovelight at 1/8th power, so dropped the power to get close to F2.8. I then adjust in post, +/- a third of a stop or so, to get it the way I wanted it (to look more like just a bit brighter than average fill, to get a nice blend with ambient, but to isolate from ambient still). Being able to meter with one trigger, and get the light nearly just right, has made life so much simpler. I prefer to just use HSS and no filter, for simplicity. But when light is changing fast and you have a 2~3 year old, you don't have time, so simplicity is whatever speeds up the process--so manual & light meter with a filter made that happen.

I have found I absolutely adore the octa brolly boxes. Anyone not familiar, it's an umbrella that has velcro and a screen and the inner lining is silver, so it's a reflective dome umbrella that turns into a "softbox" with the screen, it's ultra light weight, super portable, just like an umbrella, yet opens up to a huge 47" octa. I totally stopped using my Fotodiox EZ-pro 48" Octa because it gives the same quality light, and weighs a lot less, which lets me work a lot faster and easier since I'm solo and setting it up on a boom over subject can be tricky in the wind. As always I bungee + stake the stand into the ground for added security from a gust of wind, has never let me down.

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Results:

And results, during the few minutes she was cooperative and actually interested in hanging out in the flowers and not just freaking out about "spiiiiders!" and running to mom.

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We went home and we have a field of flowers, but one touched her ear... and that was the end of that, she lost it completely, full blown melt down after this point, so packed up.

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Apr 26, 2016 20:37 |  #9743

Nice work Martin - and as always, great job on displaying your setup.


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Post has been edited over 1 year ago by travisvwright.
Apr 27, 2016 07:27 |  #9744

Honestly wish POTN would let me follow a member instead of just following threads. Martin would be my first choice to follow. Thank you for a great post as always.


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Apr 27, 2016 07:48 |  #9745

travisvwright wrote in post #17986771 (external link)
Honestly wish POTN would let me follow a member instead of just following threads. Martin would be my first choice to follow. Thank you for a great post as always.

I'll bring it up, but for now we have something almost like that. If you click on the members username in any post, about half way down there is:

Search for travisvwright
SEARCH: for threads by travisvwright
SEARCH: for posts by travisvwright
SEARCH: for posts with images by travisvwright


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Apr 27, 2016 07:50 |  #9746

PhotosGuy wrote in post #17986800 (external link)
I'll bring it up, but for now we have something almost like that. If you click on the members username in any post, about half way down there is:

Search for travisvwright
SEARCH: for threads by travisvwright
SEARCH: for posts by travisvwright
SEARCH: for posts with images by travisvwright

Thanks, I already use the "Latest posts" section of a profile. I just clicked the "add Mal to your friends list", I'm curious to see what that does.


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Apr 27, 2016 11:31 |  #9747

MalVeauX wrote in post #17986281 (external link)
Heya,

It's been a while, been so busy with life. Anyhow, weather was cooperative and I had time off. My daughter is closing in on 3 years old this October, so we needed some new summer images to start the summer with, plus, her mother insisted since she bought & altered some new dresses and stuff. So, out we went to a local ditch where some black eyed susans were making a nice bed, on the side of the road at the end of the day, just after 6:30pm (Florida), for some warm evening light.

Equipment:

Camera: Canon 5D classic + Tamron 90mm F2.8 VC (Macro) + 58mm -> 77mm step up ring + Marumi 3 Stop ND Filter + Rubber Hood
Light: Rovelight 600B + Yongnuo YN603c transceivers (one on Rovelight via pc sync cable and velcro) + Sekonic L478D Light Meter
Modifier: Cheetah Boom Stand + Neewer 47" Octa Brolly Box + Bungees & Stakes & Counter Weight

I didn't use HSS for this session because when you have aboslutely limited time (falling light, and a 2.5 year old that may or may not cooperate and lose it), you have to make every second count. I can't meter in HSS. I knew I could get away with manual mode and a 3 stop ND filter on an F2.8 lens at normal sync speeds (1/200s, F2.8). I raised ISO to 200 to get ambient light back. I wanted the ambient light about 1 to just over 1 stop below exposure, I needed a 2 stop filter really, but I used a 3 stop and simply raised ISO by 1 stop to get me there. The rest was the Rovelight, which I metered one time (this was so nice... ). I had it at 1/16th power after a single adjustment and my distance was maybe 5~6 feet give or take a little bit since she moved around. I initially metered F4-ish with the Rovelight at 1/8th power, so dropped the power to get close to F2.8. I then adjust in post, +/- a third of a stop or so, to get it the way I wanted it (to look more like just a bit brighter than average fill, to get a nice blend with ambient, but to isolate from ambient still). Being able to meter with one trigger, and get the light nearly just right, has made life so much simpler. I prefer to just use HSS and no filter, for simplicity. But when light is changing fast and you have a 2~3 year old, you don't have time, so simplicity is whatever speeds up the process--so manual & light meter with a filter made that happen.

I have found I absolutely adore the octa brolly boxes. Anyone not familiar, it's an umbrella that has velcro and a screen and the inner lining is silver, so it's a reflective dome umbrella that turns into a "softbox" with the screen, it's ultra light weight, super portable, just like an umbrella, yet opens up to a huge 47" octa. I totally stopped using my Fotodiox EZ-pro 48" Octa because it gives the same quality light, and weighs a lot less, which lets me work a lot faster and easier since I'm solo and setting it up on a boom over subject can be tricky in the wind. As always I bungee + stake the stand into the ground for added security from a gust of wind, has never let me down.

Thanks for the info on that octabox and boom arm!

I have been using a similar octabox cheap Chinese off brands and cowboy studio brand. It always surprises when i see other peoples equipment to see that they don't use an octabox like this.
I have been struggling with what light stand/boom arm to use. I put my own system together using a little ingenuity, light stand and a reflector boom arm. I had not come across that Cheetah boom arm before. I will look into getting one of those.

For those looking into this system. Even though there is a large zipper in the bottom of the octa that you can place over a light stand. You can only tilt the octa down a few degrees, that is why it is best used with a boom arm.

Thanks for the idea on using the Bungee cord and stakes. I had just been lugging around two sand bags for the stand.


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Apr 27, 2016 14:42 |  #9748

Micro5797 wrote in post #17986992 (external link)
For those looking into this system. Even though there is a large zipper in the bottom of the octa that you can place over a light stand. You can only tilt the octa down a few degrees, that is why it is best used with a boom arm.

Heya,

Just a note, it's actually not limited. The octa itself is limited, but on a boom stand you're not limited, because you can angle it any angle and you can mount your light at the end extending from the boom arm, or on top of the boom arm, on it's side. And of course, you can angle it down, up, or literally any angle you please.

The limitation would be if you used the zipper brolly on a stand that is only upright with no boom. That would have a limited angle (but it still does about 45 degrees, so it's good, just not ideal for total flexibility). On a boom, you don't have this limitation.

Very best,


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Apr 27, 2016 16:39 |  #9749

MalVeauX wrote in post #17987169 (external link)
Heya,

Just a note, it's actually not limited. The octa itself is limited, but on a boom stand you're not limited, because you can angle it any angle and you can mount your light at the end extending from the boom arm, or on top of the boom arm, on it's side. And of course, you can angle it down, up, or literally any angle you please.

The limitation would be if you used the zipper brolly on a stand that is only upright with no boom. That would have a limited angle (but it still does about 45 degrees, so it's good, just not ideal for total flexibility). On a boom, you don't have this limitation.

Very best,


Hey Martin! Does the Cheetah Boom support a decent amount of weight say like a C stand?


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Apr 27, 2016 19:35 |  #9750

Shooting catalogue images, simple setup to keep it consistent.

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