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Thinking about renting a 6D. Anything I should know?

 
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Sep 18, 2016 21:10 |  #1

I normally shoot a crop sensor 70D, I'm thinking about going FF maybe next year when I have enough money put aside. Maybe a Canon 6d Mark II when they come out or a used 5D Mark III. I was thinking about renting a 6D with a 24-105 lens for a fall weekend camping trip just to see how I liked FF. I would mostly be shooting landscape and maybe some wildlife with my 100-400L. I noticed that the 6D has fewer focus points than the 70D and slower fps. If I'm not shooting sports, does it really matter? Is there anything else I should know?


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Sep 18, 2016 21:14 |  #2

Beware: once you go FF you never go back.


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Sep 19, 2016 15:17 |  #3

If priority is landscape, then I'd say 6D. The problem is when you say, "some wildlife". 6D's focus system is not great for moving subjects. The center point is really good, and that's about all. You'll be mad going from a 70D to a 6D focus system on moving objects.

Since your priority are landscapes, the 6D's center focus point is superb, even in the lowest of light situations. The 6D could open up a world of astro and night landscape photography for you.


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Sep 19, 2016 15:32 |  #4

gossamer88 wrote in post #18132429 (external link)
Beware: once you go FF you never go back.


Gospel. I had a 70D and a 6D at the same time. Just sell the 70D now.

01Ryan10 wrote in post #18133366 (external link)
If priority is landscape, then I'd say 6D. The problem is when you say, "some wildlife". 6D's focus system is not great for moving subjects. The center point is really good, and that's about all. You'll be mad going from a 70D to a 6D focus system on moving objects.

Since your priority are landscapes, the 6D's center focus point is superb, even in the lowest of light situations. The 6D could open up a world of astro and night landscape photography for you.

The 6D's AF system is as good as the 70D for tracking moving objects, IF you can keep the one cross point on target. I can't. I bought a 1DIV for things that move. I am very happy with my 1DIV. Notice I didn't keep the 70D.


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Sep 19, 2016 15:37 |  #5

Don't hesitate, you'll love it. And if you can keep the 70D you'll have an excellent duo of bodies for most situations.


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Sep 19, 2016 16:45 |  #6

Thanks everyone! Wildlife I may see will be elk and deer, not birds, so big enough that I should be able to track. I will remember to use the center point. Hopefully by the time I have the cash, the rumored 6d Mark II will be out with improved AF.


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Sep 20, 2016 01:10 as a reply to repete7's post |  #7

Why not get 5d mk3 .how much do u think 6d mk2 is going to cost ?


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Sep 20, 2016 02:07 |  #8

I nearly ran the same path and in the end just bit the bullet. The first file you go to process will make you realise the money you paid for the rental could have gone towards buying a new 6d. My advice is buy it now and don't wait for the mkii, theres always something new around the corner




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Sep 20, 2016 07:24 |  #9

01Ryan10 wrote in post #18133366 (external link)
If priority is landscape, then I'd say 6D. The problem is when you say, "some wildlife". 6D's focus system is not great for moving subjects. The center point is really good, and that's about all. You'll be mad going from a 70D to a 6D focus system on moving objects.

Since your priority are landscapes, the 6D's center focus point is superb, even in the lowest of light situations. The 6D could open up a world of astro and night landscape photography for you.

More regurgitated nonsense once again. There are countless posts here showing just how 'poor' the 6D is for moving objects. Those that own the 6D know that the focus system bashing is simply diatribe.

Buy the camera and use it for whatever purpose you see fit; portraits, wildlife, sports, landscape. The only limitations that camera has are in the person holding it.


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Sep 20, 2016 07:56 |  #10

The limitations to AF are well-known and documented, but this doesn't mean the 6D is an inferior camera. As stated above, if you can keep the center AF point tracking on a subject then AI-SERVO is an effective tool. For ONE SHOT, focus and recompose, an old habit from film days, is necessary.

The Canon 6D is a fine camera, just understand and know how (and when) to work around its limitations and it will serve you well.




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Sep 20, 2016 10:00 |  #11

saea501 wrote in post #18134066 (external link)
More regurgitated nonsense once again. There are countless posts here showing just how 'poor' the 6D is for moving objects. Those that own the 6D know that the focus system bashing is simply diatribe.

Buy the camera and use it for whatever purpose you see fit; portraits, wildlife, sports, landscape. The only limitations that camera has are in the person holding it.

Very well said. I am sooooooooo tired of hearing about the "poor 6D AF". It's a great camera. From what I figure, if you can't use the 6D AF, it's most likely you, and not the camera.




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Sep 20, 2016 11:12 |  #12

saea501 wrote in post #18134066 (external link)
More regurgitated nonsense once again. There are countless posts here showing just how 'poor' the 6D is for moving objects. Those that own the 6D know that the focus system bashing is simply diatribe.

Buy the camera and use it for whatever purpose you see fit; portraits, wildlife, sports, landscape. The only limitations that camera has are in the person holding it.


I'll disagree. I've read a lot of articles that prove the outer focus points are terrible. As I first stated though, center point is fantastic for moving subjects.


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Sep 20, 2016 12:10 |  #13

01Ryan10 wrote in post #18134304 (external link)
I'll disagree. I've read a lot of articles that prove the outer focus points are terrible. As I first stated though, center point is fantastic for moving subjects.

Again, someone who has never owned one, giving opinion with no first hand knowledge. Oh, but wait! If it's on the internet, it must be true!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:




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Sep 20, 2016 13:31 as a reply to eddieb1's post |  #14

Is the AF on the 5D2 comparable to the 6D? because my experience with the 5D2 had me go with the 5D3.

NOTHING more frustrating for the camera to lock and click on an outer point, and find the file was off focus enough so only web size was acceptable. If you use the out points a bunch on the 70D, then you might find the AF on the 6D lacking.

And as to the comment on once you go full frame, you won't go back to crop... I think that was once true, when crop sensors were bad at higher iso's. They still don't equal FF but I use mine interchangeably ... an while I do like my 5D3, and it was better in a small indoor arena, the buffer limits have me frustrated compared to my 7D2. The 7D2 works much better in a bigger indoor arena with the same lens.

Horses for courses.. I can use either camera well in all my situations of shooting, but one does better for somethings, and the other, for other things.


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Sep 20, 2016 13:53 |  #15

I have a 6D. Static subjects with good light the outer points are okay. In bad light with little contrast forget it. Center point is terrific. AiServo is not bad unless the subject is coming at you at a high rate of speed but that may be asking too much of it. AiServo and outer points, I don't even bother.

I had a 5Dc as well. I miss the expansion points of the 5Dc for AiServo with the center point.


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