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Best DSLR for $1300 or under

 
FarmerTed1971
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Sep 20, 2016 23:22 |  #31

EOS-M3 and 11-22 with a Induro tripod and Sirui K-20x ballhead.
$1325 and DONE!

EOS-M3 - $479
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com ...3_mirrorless_digita​l.html (external link)

EOS-M 11-22 - $399
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com ...m_11_22mm_f_4_5_6_i​s.html (external link)

Induro CLT103 Classic Series 1 Stealth Carbon Fiber Tripod - $300
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com ...103_1_stealth_carbo​n.html (external link)

Sirui K20-X - $125
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com ...RK20_K_20x_Ball_Hea​d.html (external link)

With this setup you can upgrade the camera later and still have very capable legs and ballhead.
You could even keep the camera if you eventually upgrade to a DSLR and buy the lens adapter and use all EOS lenses on the M3 for a small pocket rig that give you lots of options.


Getting better at this - Fuji Xt-2 - Fuji X-Pro2 - 18-55 - 35 f2 WR - 50-140 - 6D - 135L - 70-200 f4L IS - 600EX-RT x2 - ST-E3-RT - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

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Sep 20, 2016 23:30 |  #32

I am noticing a few trends here.

One is "only what the OP asked for"
Another is "$1300 is way too little to buy anything worthy"
"No matter what you do, you are going to buy a bunch of expensive gear in the end"
"Buy inexpensive and go out and make pictures"
"Buy inexpensive and figure it out"

A person who "wants a DSLR, probably Canon or Nikon with $1300 to spend" with no significant photographic knowledge. If this were my best friend, what would I do?

First, I would have a relaxed conversation, perhaps with a walk or a cup of coffee, and talk about their goals. What pictures do they like? What pictures have they made that they like? What do they like about them?

Then I would explore why they wanted a DSLR and what attracted them to that idea. Because the answers to these questions are more likely to get at a good answer than trying to fill a $1300 order for a camera.

Based on the information we have, I think MalVeauX made a strong suggestion. Because it is true that she is quite likely to add gear later. And that mostly means good quality lenses. And Fuji has outstanding lenses for moderate prices.

Since portraits are a goal, Fuji has the best skin tones straight out of the camera.

The brand new XT2 is the top of the heap, but just outside the price range. But as it is hitting the streets, the XT1 will almost certainly drop in price. The XT1 is great for portraits and landscapes. There will probably be a good deal with the 18-55/2.8, which is a surprisingly good little kit lens. It covers the Full Frame 28-85mm, the most used range. And it's easy to carry everywhere in a bag the size of a small purse, so she will use it a lot. And using it a lot is the key to getting good. And when she has that experience, she will know if she needs anything else.

And because she is getting it in the price window of a new version, she could get most of her money back out of either bit if she wanted to trade up. I see hundreds of Nikon and Canon kit lenses on Craigslist. This Fuji kit used usually goes for more than it costs to add it to the camera.

Or this advice is also good:

MalVeauX wrote in post #18134299 (external link)
My top recommendation for the GF camera thing is going to be a Fuji APS-C and two little lenses (an 18mm F2 and something longer, like a 50mm of some flavor).


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Sep 21, 2016 00:35 |  #33

Factory direct with 1 yr warranty. Body w/ 2 lens kit. ~$700 with tax & shipping.
https://shop.usa.canon​.com ...6-is-stm-lens-refurbished (external link)

Add a fast prime lenses. ~$100
https://shop.usa.canon​.com ...50mm-f-18-stm-refurbished (external link)

A Yongnuo Flash. ~$100

Memory card, spare battery, & bag. ~$100.

Decent tripod. ~$300

Should be able to get in a capable starter kit for $1300.


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FarmerTed1971
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Sep 21, 2016 00:39 |  #34

That's the same Rebel bundle I had my friend order for his wife a few months ago. She is beyond thrilled and will probably not need anything better for a LONG time, if ever.


Getting better at this - Fuji Xt-2 - Fuji X-Pro2 - 18-55 - 35 f2 WR - 50-140 - 6D - 135L - 70-200 f4L IS - 600EX-RT x2 - ST-E3-RT - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

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Sep 21, 2016 00:53 |  #35

crbinson wrote in post #18135126 (external link)
Factory direct with 1 yr warranty. Body w/ 2 lens kit. ~$700 with tax & shipping.
https://shop.usa.canon​.com ...6-is-stm-lens-refurbished (external link)

Add a fast prime lenses. ~$100
https://shop.usa.canon​.com ...50mm-f-18-stm-refurbished (external link)

A Yongnuo Flash. ~$100

Memory card, spare battery, & bag. ~$100.

Decent tripod. ~$300

Should be able to get in a capable starter kit for $1300.

After reading some of the answers here this is probably the best and most salient one. I hope the OP hasn't left already though.


Canon EOS 1000d /60d : 18-55mm IS kit lens. Canon 50mm 1.8 MK2. Tamron 55-200mm F4-5.6, battery grip to make my cam look pro..and 30mm Sigma F1.4 recently added
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Sep 21, 2016 01:18 |  #36

crbinson wrote in post #18135126 (external link)
Factory direct with 1 yr warranty. Body w/ 2 lens kit. ~$700 with tax & shipping.
https://shop.usa.canon​.com ...6-is-stm-lens-refurbished (external link)

Add a fast prime lenses. ~$100
https://shop.usa.canon​.com ...50mm-f-18-stm-refurbished (external link)

A Yongnuo Flash. ~$100

Memory card, spare battery, & bag. ~$100.

Decent tripod. ~$300

Should be able to get in a capable starter kit for $1300.

i'd do this...but i'd skip the flash for now...get a cheaper tripod...and add in the 10-18IS for $240
https://shop.usa.canon​.com ...f45-56-is-stm-refurbished (external link)

gives her 10-250mm stabilized in lenses...and one fast zoom...certainly a capable kit...and if she likes it all you can get her something to go with it when the holidays roll around


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Sep 21, 2016 04:53 |  #37

Is this 1300usd?


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Sep 21, 2016 12:20 |  #38

This is just my humble opinion. If I were buying a new DSLR camera without owning any lenses for purely personal use today I would buy Pentax. The concept of having a truly weather resistance body/camera system really out weights the subtle difference between the mid level cameras, again imho.


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Sep 21, 2016 12:29 as a reply to post 18134511 |  #39

Ignoring people's parameters is par for the course. Ask about a $150 lens and someone will, without a doubt, recommend waiting and saving up for 28-300 $3000 lens. Frustrating as hell!




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Sep 21, 2016 14:18 |  #40

6d+50STM should fit the budget especially if refurbished. I would skip crop sensors entirely. Canon 6d sensor is astonishing for people photos even w/o any post processing.




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AlanU
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Sep 21, 2016 14:37 |  #41

I'm a canon shooter and I've sold many of my lenses that I seldom use. What camera do i suggest for slower moving subjects???

Fuji X-T10 with 18-55 f/2.8-4.0 kit lens. Currently it's not on sale at B&H for $1099.

Depending on how large a person will print I think a 16 megapixel camera is still very acceptable.

I just purchased a brand new 80D and even with my current "L" lenses I will say I really love the fuji files over the canon Crop sensor. For one thing I get no accuracy focus issues with the mirrorless fuji body.

For landscape and portraits I think the RAW files from Fuji would be very pleasant almost straight out of camera. The 18-55 kit lens truly shocks me and would easily be on par or surpasses image quality compared to a a current 24-105 f/4IS (new retail box $1099 usd)with new canon crop sensor.

If the OP's girlfriend required fast action photography I wouldn't suggest Fuji 16mpx bodies even though it would capture decent/acceptable amount of keepers. The more expensive X-T2 would be substantially more $$$ but it'll keep up with sports/fast action photography.

If I owned a Canon 7d2 or using my 80D with a more expensive Canon 17-55IS f/2.8 lens I would without a doubt bring my Fuji crop sensor with 18-55 (kit lens) if I was shooting in natural light. To my eyes the Fuji older 16mpx crop sensor would provide pleasant eye candy in an effortless way. My 80D images are "OK" but I'd grab my older Canon 5dmk2 for substantially better image quality vs Canon Crop sensor.

I'm a loyal Canon user and very likely always will be..... however I'm truly impressed in the quality of the lenses and images of the Fuji system for human subjects and even landscape. I will be buying a new X-T2 in the very near future so this will add more love to my secondary camera system.

I recently forced myself to use my fuji X-t10 and 80D on a trip. I used my 24Lmk2 and 16-35 f/2.8 lenses with my Canon crop. I love how the 80D handles and it's responsive performance but my Fuji with 16mm, 18-55 and 55-200 zoom produced noticeably pleasant images in how it renditions "life". I will admit my 80D kicked ass in 1080 video with it's dual pixel af technology.

For light weight, accurate AF, great low light performing slow moving subjects I'd take a fuji X-T10, X-E2s with 18-55 kit lens over any Canon 7dmk2, 80D with 18-135mm or 18-55 kit lens combo. To my eyes the fuji rendition looks more rich like a full frame compared to any Canon crop sensor offering at this moment in time.


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Sep 21, 2016 16:45 |  #42

Just a few kit possibilities:

5Dc $350
40 2.8 STM $90
85 1.8. $300
70-200 f4 L. $460
$100 left for:
Extra battery
Small bag
CF cards

A6000 $400
16-70f4 $650
FE 28 f2 $350
$100 for:
Wasabi 2-battery/ charger kit
SD cards
Small bag

RX10ii $850
B&W Kaesmann CPL and ND filters $225
Dolcia traveler tripod $60
Extra battery
SD cards
Bag


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Sep 21, 2016 17:30 as a reply to mickeyb105's post |  #43

let me pose a(n unpopular, or at least infrequently advocated) theory: too much gear may actually stifle creativity. photography is about the visual world, not the gear.

consider a basic digital slr camera "welded" into manual mode, set at base ISO (50/100/200), and with a single prime lens - humble 35mm, 40mm, or 50mm'ish are traditional lenses - for good reasons. moderate max apertures are fine (f/2.8-4).

this can be accomplished for significantly less than $500. ask if you don't know how.

keep it simple. learn with one's eyes - not a dizzying array of equipment. better gear may not a better photographer make.

the simpler the rig/kit, the better. the point is to get beyond the gear and into the visual aspects and to immerse oneself into the exposure triangle, the vagaries of different lighting, composition variables, etc. iow, to learn the craft and the art. you'll still have a lifetime to chase gear.

good luck, and don't forget to experiment and have fun. the world is your classroom, with or without the newest, biggest, best!




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Sep 21, 2016 18:17 |  #44

From a Canon Digital Rebel T5 and a used Tamron 18-270mm lens, about US $600.

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Buy two.

Dudara wrote in post #18134288 (external link)
Hello,

I'm thinking of buying a DSLR camera for photography in the next month or so, as the choice is so wast and I don't know anyone personally to consult with, I thought this would be a great place to ask such a question.

The camera is going to be a gift for my gf, she loves photography but doesn't have the spare cash to buy a decent camera. She loves photographing landscapes and the occasional portrait.

Any advice is much appreciated. :) And a complete kit would also be great info to have.

Cheers!




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Sep 21, 2016 18:46 |  #45

Dudara wrote in post #18134288 (external link)
Hello,

I'm thinking of buying a DSLR camera for photography in the next month or so, as the choice is so wast and I don't know anyone personally to consult with, I thought this would be a great place to ask such a question.

The camera is going to be a gift for my gf, she loves photography but doesn't have the spare cash to buy a decent camera. She loves photographing landscapes and the occasional portrait.

Any advice is much appreciated. :) And a complete kit would also be great info to have.

Cheers!

I just grabbed the 6D that was within arms reach and mounted the modest 50/1.8 stm. Shot this after sunset (past half hour), using our deck railing for stability (no IS, slow shutter).

This could just have easily been shot on a crop body - but I might have used a wider lens (<40mm). The 6D was just handy.

Nothing fancy or all that special: manual mode, open aperture, ISO 100.

But it fills my eye. Mother nature puts on a nice show. The image is untouched & unprocessed - zip, nada, zilch - betcha can tell.

enjoy!
Dale

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