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Nov 12, 2016 06:59 |  #931

Vladdo wrote in post #18182083 (external link)
At the same time, some of us don't give a f$*k..

I appreciate that prop blur is nice, but some of us aren't fortunate enough to be close enough to shoot at short focal lengths. Therefore long focal lengths are required and so are shorter shutter speeds.

To base all photograph merit on whether or not a plane has a frozen prop is just stupid.

I shoot from 400mm to 800mm and I strive for prop blur every shot.

To me the difference is do you want an ascetically pleasing pic or do you want to document the plane. If it is for documentation then a static prop is OK. When First started shooting I thought "cool" I can freeze the prop. Now my tastes have changed.


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Nov 12, 2016 07:01 |  #932

Vladdo wrote in post #18182323 (external link)
What I'm saying is that my body & lens, is a good 4kg/8lbs of kit.. so when you're waving around 600mm of length.. 1/200th is impossible to achieve sharp focus, handheld.. That said, I'd rather shoot at 1/500th.. 1/750th.. (for me) and at least get some keepers with minimal prop blur, rather than a mess of blurry out of focus shots.

I don't have herculean arms or hands of a surgeon.. Whilst I have a 100-400, it's pretty useless when shooting small prop planes at a distance, so the 600 gets used the most.



Not true practice you will get a good sharp plane with prop blur with a long lens. I do it all the time. Sure you throw out more than you keep but it is possible with minimal practice.


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Nov 12, 2016 07:49 |  #933

Shhhhh...nobody tell him about 1/40th....

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Nov 12, 2016 08:16 |  #934

You won't get better at it if you don't try. As said by others you usually get multiple passes at an air show so you have the time to try different shutter speeds. Like many I have shot the 100-400 for years but last season I moved up to the Sigma 150-600 C which served me well even though it's heavier than anything I've shot prior. I've added photos from it to this thread (with it on a 1D4) and this is from that combo at the full 600 mm. hand held by a 69 year old hobby photographer. 1D4, 150-600 C, @600 mm, f13, ISO 100 shutter speed 1/200

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As for getting caught off guard I've done that too. In June the opening act for the QIAS was the Skyhawks Parachute Team & I shot them at a fast shutter speed, then set the camera down (on my opened back pack) to talk with friends. Suddenly the Herc used by the Skyhawks made a high speed low show pass so I picked up my camera & started shooting & I froze all 4 props perfectly as it flew by. I realized what I had done about 3/4 of the way through the pass.

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Nov 12, 2016 08:58 |  #935

This is a great picture with so much to like -- not just prop blur but background blur , flying but close to the ground.

Thanks for posting it.

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Nov 12, 2016 09:48 |  #936

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Nov 12, 2016 10:01 |  #937

How about if your lens has no IS or VR on it - is it possible to hold a 300mm heavy prime ang get shake free pics at 1/200sec?


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Nov 12, 2016 10:04 as a reply to Pagman's post |  #938

Yes

You photogs should try sporting clays, bird hunting or trap. You will learn to pick up and follow through on a shot.


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Nov 12, 2016 10:48 |  #939

1/160 at 600mm with the Canon 300 F2.8 and a 2X extender. Also check out Andy Nguyen at WildWingsphotography.c​om, hes a champ at slow shutter speeds and routinely shoots at 600 or 800mm

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Nov 12, 2016 11:42 |  #940

Pagman wrote in post #18182507 (external link)
How about if your lens has no IS or VR on it - is it possible to hold a 300mm heavy prime ang get shake free pics at 1/200sec?


P.

I've shot my original 35-350 L on crop bodies with decent results that slow & it has no IS. In actual fact I'm much smoother at low shutter speeds while panning than I am at any shutter speed shooting a static subject.


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Nov 12, 2016 12:28 |  #941

Pagman wrote in post #18182507 (external link)
How about if your lens has no IS or VR on it - is it possible to hold a 300mm heavy prime ang get shake free pics at 1/200sec?

This is 1/60 sec. @ 400mm w/70-200 f/2.8 w/2X TC & no IS.

Yes, some don't come out as well, but I'm shooting for the ones that do.

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Nov 12, 2016 17:14 as a reply to Pagman's post |  #942

I usually dont use IS. If you pan fast the gyro tumbles, causing the image to jump


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Nov 12, 2016 17:15 as a reply to cicopo's post |  #943

I find fast panning without IS I get more keepers too


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Nov 12, 2016 17:21 |  #944

Desertraptor wrote in post #18182788 (external link)
I find fast panning without IS I get more keepers too

Even with mode 2?




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Nov 12, 2016 17:25 |  #945

Vladdo wrote in post #18182323 (external link)
What I'm saying is that my body & lens, is a good 4kg/8lbs of kit.. so when you're waving around 600mm of length.. 1/200th is impossible to achieve sharp focus, handheld..

1/200 @ 600mm hand-held...

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