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AlanU
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Dec 06, 2016 09:46 |  #481

I'm still not sure if the 80D has taken off in popularity. I'm honestly quite surprised!! Back in the day the 40D was a big uprising for excitement and after that it kinda fizzled IMO as the 50d and 60d was not a game changer in IQ. The 70D with dual pixel AF was a nice change for AF in video but flash exposure seemed to be an issue in many copies.

The 80D has been a joyful experience for me. I've adopted the canon crop sensor for my gearbag never expecting to be this satisfied.

I'm finding the 80D still has the Canon signature colours but a hint less digital looking as I process the photos (my style) in lightroom.

In the Canon world I think this would be the one I suggest to anyone that is looking for a universal camera to shoot video and casual sports and energetic kids. Sure it's a heavier dslr but it's still quite small for a dslr. For professional use I'd still push people for dual memory card slots in the 7dmk2.


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Dec 06, 2016 13:05 |  #482

I'm very happy with mine, too, and am continually impressed with the depth of colour the 80D produces. Crop sensor no problem. I can print A3s with no problem.


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Dec 06, 2016 13:08 |  #483

AlanU wrote in post #18205006 (external link)
I'm still not sure if the 80D has taken off in popularity. I'm honestly quite surprised!!

The Black Friday deals could move some units as well as the fact that it recently started being offered refurbished through Canon directly. I just picked one up -- jumping up from T3i.




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Dec 06, 2016 15:22 |  #484

As much as i like my 80D, im still considering a 6D for low light shooting. Granted the 80D does focus nicely in low light. But the noise is still a bit much for me. From what I've researched the 6D has better high ISO than the 5DmkIII.

Sorry, didnt mean to derail 80D discussions. As you were.


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AlanU
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Dec 06, 2016 17:06 |  #485

Cormac wrote in post #18205302 (external link)
As much as i like my 80D, im still considering a 6D for low light shooting. Granted the 80D does focus nicely in low light. But the noise is still a bit much for me. From what I've researched the 6D has better high ISO than the 5DmkIII.

Sorry, didnt mean to derail 80D discussions. As you were.

Definitely choose your tools for specific reasons. I do not disagree with the 6D working as a "light sponge" :)

For most of my events shooting I can have an extremely high rate of keepers using a 5dmk2 or 6D. I think it would be more of a preference in the "full frame look" but a Canon 6d would open up more opportunities in stealth low available light shooting.

However if I was shooting remote flash and ETTL flash on my trigger (on camera hotshoe) during a reception I would be certain it'd be hard to tell the difference from an 80D to a 6D.

I think real life shooting the 80D is very close to the 5dmk2 at high iso. Now that I've use the 80D for some events work I'll have to say I was quite impressed. I just would love to see a modern UWA f/2.8 aperture zoom for crop camera and 24mm equivalent fast prime (16mm crop sensor prime??)


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Dec 06, 2016 17:22 |  #486

I've had my 80D for about 10 days. Like the 6D, it can focus in the dark. A huge improvement over the 70D.

I did some preliminary shooting at high (6400, 12800) ISO settings today. Whoa! The 12,800 files coming out of the 80D are better than 6400 files out of the 60/70D. On my first round, I didn't even use ETTR. I would have no problem using ISO 12800 files from the 80D to make 8"x10" prints. And they are easier to clean up than 60D/70D files. I use LR 5.7, and Adobe DNG Converter for raws.


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Dec 06, 2016 18:25 |  #487

Bassat wrote in post #18205432 (external link)
I've had my 80D for about 10 days. Like the 6D, it can focus in the dark. A huge improvement over the 70D.

I did some preliminary shooting at high (6400, 12800) ISO settings today. Whoa! The 12,800 files coming out of the 80D are better than 6400 files out of the 60/70D. On my first round, I didn't even use ETTR. I would have no problem using ISO 12800 files from the 80D to make 8"x10" prints. And they are easier to clean up than 60D/70D files. I use LR 5.7, and Adobe DNG Converter for raws.

Oh, for sure. The noise cleans up nicely. Just a obsessive compulsive thing with me and noise. I notice it more than i should when viewed at 100% its a bad habit i have. Id imagine 12800 printed 8x10 would look just fine. Even with minimal nr


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Dec 06, 2016 18:27 |  #488

Do you guys use the in camera NR and high ISO in camera NR?




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Dec 06, 2016 18:30 |  #489

Cormac wrote in post #18205486 (external link)
Oh, for sure. The noise cleans up nicely. Just a obsessive compulsive thing with me and noise. I notice it more than i should when viewed at 100% its a bad habit i have. Id imagine 12800 printed 8x10 would look just fine. Even with minimal nr

I do look at them at 100%. I don't evaluate at 100%. If it looks good full-screen on a 22" monitor from 18" in front of my face, an 8"x10" print will look just fine.

Just curious.... Where in Indiana are you? I live just outside of Bourbon.


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Bassat
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Dec 06, 2016 18:33 |  #490

djr01974 wrote in post #18205488 (external link)
Do you guys use the in camera NR and high ISO in camera NR?

I use high-ISO NR set to 'STANDARD' when shooting JPG. For ISO @ 3200 & higher (may go to 6400 on 80D), I shoot raw. In-camera NR has no effect on raw files. Processed in LR 5.7 via Adobe DNG Converter.


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Dec 06, 2016 19:08 |  #491

Roger that I wasn't sure if it made a difference in raw. I shoot raw as well.




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AlanU
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Dec 06, 2016 20:12 |  #492

Cormac wrote in post #18205486 (external link)
Oh, for sure. The noise cleans up nicely. Just a obsessive compulsive thing with me and noise. I notice it more than i should when viewed at 100% its a bad habit i have. Id imagine 12800 printed 8x10 would look just fine. Even with minimal nr

If your shooting slow to static subjects or require decent quantity of photos shooting action sports the 6D will work for you.

If you buy the 6D you will be much more happier in image quality from low to high iso. This is why you should make a list of requirements you need in a camera body. Shooting a 6D with a thick dof for video will be fine if your not running and gunning and not requiring responsive auto focus.

The 80D does provide great prints and excellent images to pixel peep. For non action images the 6d will be without a doubt better. What you must determine is meeting your "standards" in IQ.

For flash supplemented events photography I can use my 80D with great results. However I would prefer my 5dmk2 or 5dmk3 with better IQ even though on print you probably couldn't tell.


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Dec 06, 2016 20:39 |  #493

AlanU wrote in post #18205564 (external link)
If your shooting slow to static subjects or require decent quantity of photos shooting action sports the 6D will work for you.

If you buy the 6D you will be much more happier in image quality from low to high iso. This is why you should make a list of requirements you need in a camera body. Shooting a 6D with a thick dof for video will be fine if your not running and gunning and not requiring responsive auto focus.

The 80D does provide great prints and excellent images to pixel peep. For non action images the 6d will be without a doubt better. What you must determine is meeting your "standards" in IQ.

For flash supplemented events photography I can use my 80D with great results. However I would prefer my 5dmk2 or 5dmk3 with better IQ even though on print you probably couldn't tell.

Let me guess. You've never used a 6D. The original 7D was called an AF-monster. The 6D is called 'crippled' wrt AF. I owned both at the same time. If you can keep the center point on your target, the 6D is noticeably more responsive than the original 7D. I own 1DIV (and now an 80D) not because the 6D sucks at AI-Servo AF, but because I am stuck with the center point on the 6D. Relegating the 6D to static work, especially if it is your only body, is just wasting potential.


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AlanU
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Dec 06, 2016 21:12 |  #494

Bassat wrote in post #18205584 (external link)
Let me guess. You've never used a 6D. The original 7D was called an AF-monster. The 6D is called 'crippled' wrt AF. I owned both at the same time. If you can keep the center point on your target, the 6D is noticeably more responsive than the original 7D. I own 1DIV (and now an 80D) not because the 6D sucks at AI-Servo AF, but because I am stuck with the center point on the 6D. Relegating the 6D to static work, especially if it is your only body, is just wasting potential.

I stated "If your shooting slow to static subjects or require decent quantity of photos shooting action sports the 6D will work for you"

The 6D destroys the 1dmk4 when it comes to image quality and high ISO capabilities. However demanding AF-C when the subject is coming towards you the 1dmk4 AF will "WIN". For image quality I'd take a 6D any day over a 1dmk4 for any events work (so unfortunate 6d has a single SD memory slot).

The 80D is refreshing because the AF is very responsive able to capture any child sliding down a big slide or on a swing. If your 50 feet away (picking random number) you can track any soccer player on the field.

6d the buffer simply isn't designed for rapid fire sports documentation. However a soccer mom/dad will do fine snapping their child playing soccer on a field. 6D can do it but there are better tools for the task.

If you owned a 5dmk3 or 5dmk4 for stills you could sell your 80D and 1dmk4. You'd lose your "built in" 1.6 TC crop factor :)

The 6D was without a doubt crippled by canon both in 1/4000 max shutter limitation and AF to create a rift between the 5dmk3 4 years ago. The Nikon D750 is a good example of what Canon should have done with the 6D. Knowing Canon they are holding back on the AF for a 6dmk2.

I can see your defensive about your 6d but I think your missing the point that there are other tools much better in acquiring AF to track subjects. 80D puts the 6d to shame in many respects. But the 6D is superior in IQ.


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Dec 06, 2016 21:31 |  #495

AlanU wrote in post #18205605 (external link)
I stated "If your shooting slow to static subjects or require decent quantity of photos shooting action sports the 6D will work for you"

The 6D destroys the 1dmk4 when it comes to image quality and high ISO capabilities. However demanding AF-C when the subject is coming towards you the 1dmk4 AF will "WIN". For image quality I'd take a 6D any day over a 1dmk4 for any events work (so unfortunate 6d has a single SD memory slot).

The 80D is refreshing because the AF is very responsive able to capture any child sliding down a big slide or on a swing. If your 50 feet away (picking random number) you can track any soccer player on the field.

6d the buffer simply isn't designed for rapid fire sports documentation. However a soccer mom/dad will do fine snapping their child playing soccer on a field. 6D can do it but there are better tools for the task.

If you owned a 5dmk3 or 5dmk4 for stills you could sell your 80D and 1dmk4. You'd lose your "built in" 1.6 TC crop factor :)

The 6D was without a doubt crippled by canon both in 1/4000 max shutter limitation and AF to create a rift between the 5dmk3 4 years ago. The Nikon D750 is a good example of what Canon should have done with the 6D. Knowing Canon they are holding back on the AF for a 6dmk2.

I can see your defensive about your 6d but I think your missing the point that there are other tools much better in acquiring AF to track subjects. 80D puts the 6d to shame in many respects. But the 6D is superior in IQ.

I'm still supposing you've never used a 6D. The 'crippled' 6D's AF outperforms the original 7D. Period. The 6D will track that kid coming down a slide as well as the 1DX II, or any other Canon camera from the last 7 or 8 years. That type of target is not a challenge to the AF system of a T3i.

I have no problems with the AF system on my 6D. If I can keep the center point on the target, the 6D is as good as the 1DIV. The 1DIV shines when I can't keep the center point on target, or when other objects get between me and my subject, or when I want 10 fps.

It sounds like you are regurgitating review(er)s who blasted the 6D. ISO 50 and 1/4000 is the same exposure as ISO 100 and 1/8000. I've got thousand of sports/athletic photos. None of them are faster then 1/4000. I've also never had to stop down my fast primes past f/2.2 to get the shot at 1/4000.

The 6D was introduced as a high-ISO, high-IQ, inexpensive, full-frame camera. It is every bit of all of that. Canon did offer a version of the 6D with a built-in grip, killer AF, 12 fps, and the kitchen sink. They called it the 1DX. I know my 6D has limitations. That is why I own a 1DIV. If someone can only afford, or only wants, one body, the 6D is good all-arounder.


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