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mobius55
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Feb 28, 2010 09:55 |  #46

Matthew Hemm wrote in post #9662717external link
.... My only real problem is poses. I cannot really find any samples of poses for couples that fit this category. Only results I find when using google is mostly pornographic types images.
I have a few ideas, but not enough in my opinion...

Hey, Matthew, that's a good question. There is very little work being done in that area; I've actually been working on a series of 'Loving Couples' photos. I'll start a new thread on this topic later today, as soon as I gather some photos to post.

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getbent
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Mar 06, 2010 20:03 |  #47
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Matthew Hemm wrote in post #9662717external link
I am in need of some help.

Very recently a good friend of mine found out I was into photography and said she would model for me. Then she said she might want to do nude and implied nude with her husband for me. My only real problem is poses. I cannot really find any samples of poses for couples that fit this category. Only results I find when using google is mostly pornographic types images.
I have a few ideas, but not enough in my opinion.

I am still very inexperienced with shooting people, but definitely do not want to turn down this opportunity, since I know it would probably not come up again for a while.

And any other tips to help me out would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


As a new photographer, I know exactly what you mean. I've been studying pictures of all types to gather intelligence on poses.

Something to keep in mind is that you can take any type of pose and adjust it for your shoot. For example, if you see a "clothed" pose you really like, why not try it nude? Say there is a picture of a clothed couple hugging that you like. Why couldn't that be just as nice when they are nude?

Also, just close your eyes and come up with a vision in your head. Maybe come up with a fantasy situation you would like to be involved with, a certain pose, and translate that to your models. Remember it's about your vision, your idea of what you think is beautiful.

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daveytrackels
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Mar 09, 2010 11:27 |  #48

Very interesting post, Now I have to find a lovely lady to try it with lol :)


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awdigitaldreams
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Mar 26, 2010 05:22 |  #49

Having come from a fine arts background, I study the classics - both portrait painting and sculpture - all the poses you will ever need are there. So many classically beautiful positions and ideas can come from looking at work by the great masters.
As a fine art nude photographer, I try to remember at all times I am a professional and that I am working to achieve the best possible outcome for my client. I show them my body of work (pun intended lol) so that they can see what the finished image will resemble and so that they know what I can do.
And my own personal advice? Do your own SP's first so YOU know what its like when yr on the floor naked with a camera up close and personal!
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Apr 04, 2010 15:54 as a reply to awdigitaldreams's post |  #50

i don't shoot much nudes, but for Glam my golden rule has been - shoot tight, shoot bright, and always remember - it's all about the girl...

it's served me well so far :)


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Apr 17, 2011 13:01 |  #51

I partake in glam shots every now and again with varying experiences. All around great tips, thanks everyone:)

stay cool. stay comfortable. and so will your model.
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bemyzeke
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Feb 04, 2012 01:03 |  #52

I read with interest about how to treat a model and how to talk to them.

My personal experience is that there are only two kinds of models. Those who are not sure, insecure, or too greedy and those who are confident, secure, and very easy going. It is the first kind of models who cause endless problems and it is better to avoid them. I am a little rough and curt while planning the shoot, so those who are in doubt drop out before we waste each other's time. The second kind of models will show up at midnight on my door, having never seen me, and will do whatever it takes to get good pictures.

I have had model who not only not mind my touching them (for posing instructions) but have asked me to do that and have asked me to help with adjusting dress (including underwear), hair, etc.. With new models I am careful about the choice of words and I have had some models burst into laughter when I used the word Hips. "I don't have hips, this is my ass!".

So yes, I am careful and respectful of the personal space of the model, but the unsure types are just too damn difficult to work with. I dont want to shoot constantly in fear of using wrong words, wrong gestures, or asking them to pose fearing what they would think. So I prefer to just walk away from such models.




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Jun 05, 2014 07:16 |  #53

Doug Rowan wrote in post #1580319external link
This was given to me by a Professional Make-Up Artist to post on my (former) site. It works equally well for film or digital. I ususally forward this to any model prior to working with her. I also tell her not to wear ANY makeup on her way to a shoot (younger models tend to use glitter eye makeup and I hate to tell them to redo it once they show up):

Makeup for Black and White Film

Dark tones appear to recede:

Used darker colors to accent bone structure, where natural shadows occur, such as the hollows of cheeks, temples, eye sockets. Do not use color on apples or planes of cheeks. Use only under the cheekbone, and blend well. Do not use color on eyelids or brow bones. Use only in crease of eyes, and around lash line. Blend well.

Light tones appear to come forward:
Use highlight to accent where the light hits, like tops of cheeks, bridge of nose, brow bone (under row arch), center of forehead. Use a light toned concealer under eyes only on inside corners, and blend well. Using under entire under eye makes the face appear wider at the eye area, and lowers the cheekbones.

Beware of harsh lines:
Blending is especially important in black and white. Remember that you will see only tonal values, not colors. Liquid and pencil liners are too harsh. Use dark shadows instead. Do not use lip liners unless your lips are very unbalanced.

Beware of textures:
Textures are more visible in black and white, since there is no color to distract the eye. Iridescent powders must be blended carefully, and used sparingly. The same applies for glosses and wet-look makeup. Keep lips matte, or highlight only the bow and center of lips.

Tonal values:
Use colors that are easy to judge how light or dark they will appear in black and white. Charcoals and browns are good choices for eyes, mobile prices in Pakistanexternal link true reds for lips. Apply little to no tint to brows, as they will appear heavier, and draw the eye area down.
Match foundation to upper chest area, so face is not visibly lighter than rest of skin. Blend from face to neck, wetting sponge with water as you blend from jaw line to chest.


Principles of Makeup for Color Film

Studio lights and strobes:

Studio lighting flattens features, so contouring is very important. Accent bone structure, and blend into color. Flashes and strobes cause powdered skin to reflect light. Un-powdered skin absorbs light, which can cause powdered areas to look several shades lighter than bare skin. Powder neck, collarbone, Samsung Star 3 Duosexternal link and chest to achieve consistent skin tone. Strong lighting washes golden tones from skin. Use warmer colors on cheeks and lips and for contouring. Mauves tend to look muddy, so use truer pinks and wines.

Color balance:

To achieve uniform skin tone, use the color wheel to balance tones you want to appear neutral. The opposite shade on the color wheel cancels the shade you wish to eliminate.

1: Green: cancels red tones from broken capillaries, pimples, bites
2: Yellow: cancels purple tones from under eye circles, bruises
3: Orange: cancels blue tones in under eye circles, bruises

Setting:

Use makeup appropriate for the content you are shooting. Keep in mind what the focus will be, and how far you will be from the camera. Contour a little more heavily for full-length shots than for headshots. This is only a guide, but may help to get a greater variety of looks into your book. Feel free to experiment!

1: Fashion: deep cheek contour, basic lips and eyes.
2: Glamour, Swimwear, Lingerie: light cheek contour, accent lips (deep color) or eyes (smokey)
3: Beauty, Hairstyle, Swimwear: medium cheek contour, trendy eyes, medium lips.
4: Fine art: Neutral colors, accent on bone structure.
5: Lifestyle, Fitness: High color cheeks, neutral eyes, bright lips


Model Makeup Bag Basics

Foundations:

Liquid or crème; matching chest
Creme or stick; 2 shades darker than chest

Concealors:

White
Yellow
Green

Powders:

Translucent loose
Highlighting (Revlon skinlights are good)
Pressed, matching chest


Tools:

Lash curler
Lash comb
Large, soft powder brush
Wedge shaped sponges (for blending)
Circle or teardrop sponges (for foundation and powder)
Large eye shadow brush
Flat and pointy eye shadow sponge applicators
Small, slightly stiff blush brush
Eyeliner brush

Pencils:

Black liner
Basic brown liner (no golden tone)
White liner
Brownish flesh tone lip liner

Shadows:

Ecru (slightly yellow toned) powder
Golden brown powder
Basic brown powder
Charcoal powder
Raisin powder
1 set of fashion colors (no mauves!)


Blushes:

Golden brown (for contouring)
Peach-toned pink
True red
Hot pink
ABSOLUTELY NO MAUVES!

Lips:

Basic true red
Brown (not beige) neutral
Wine or raisin
Neutral (not bubble gum!) pink gloss
Bronze gloss


Extras:

Black mascara
Water mist bottle
Q-tips
Anti-redness eye drops
Lotion
Large powder puff
Razor
Tweezers
Cornstarch-based powder
As many lipsticks as you can carry!


With these colors and tools, you can create many different looks by playing with combinations and color placement and shapes for variety.
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Thank you so much Doug Rowan for sharing this great info..!
My question is Would you give me permission to reuse that on my own site?




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ethan870
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Nov 07, 2014 07:06 |  #54

This is a great source of info. Thank you so much for that. :)


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Nov 07, 2014 07:06 |  #55

PashaPhoto wrote in post #9931969external link
i don't shoot much nudes, but for Glam my golden rule has been - shoot tight, shoot bright, and always remember - it's all about the girl...

it's served me well so far :)

Totally agree with you :)


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Mar 31, 2016 22:38 |  #56

Would love to bring this back up. I shot my first boudoir/lingerie shoot two weeks ago and learned so much. I agree with much of the ideas in thread, and look forward to shooting more and being able to contribute in the future.


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Dec 08, 2016 21:05 |  #57

Thank you your great info, Doug Rowan! Looking next info from you :)




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Jan 16, 2017 07:11 |  #58

this might be interesting for some of you,
it is basically me working with a pro model, beauty and fine art shoot. Not much editing, just the way it goes:

http://www.ludwigdesme​t.com ...e-scenes-with-riona-neve/ (external link)

curious to hear your feedback though.

thx

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