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Jan 05, 2017 03:33 |  #46

If you are thinking about the 600 vs. 500 I would get the 600. It weights as much as the old 500mm, in my opinion is better balanced and is tack sharp with converters. 100-400/ 600 is a deadly combo.

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Jan 05, 2017 14:11 |  #47

P.S. I seriously considered going 600mm MkII as well, and likely would have, if it weren't for my main reason to upgrade to the MkII 500mm (from the 500mm MkI)

ie: My driving reason for the upgrade was the weight reduction. I am getting older and had a pretty serious accident which has damaged a disk and dramatically reduced my ability to carry heavy loads over long periods of time.

In either case, weight of the entire rig is a serious concern for many. So take that into account.


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Jan 05, 2017 15:38 |  #48

Thanks everyone thats very helpful and I will let you know how I get on with the rental. Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge its really appreciated


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Jan 18, 2017 00:50 |  #49

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18234453 (external link)
P.S. I seriously considered going 600mm MkII as well, and likely would have, if it weren't for my main reason to upgrade to the MkII 500mm (from the 500mm MkI)

ie: My driving reason for the upgrade was the weight reduction. I am getting older and had a pretty serious accident which has damaged a disk and dramatically reduced my ability to carry heavy loads over long periods of time.

In either case, weight of the entire rig is a serious concern for many. So take that into account.

Jake - Sorry to hear of your accident and injury. Best wishes on healing and recovery. Personally, being closer to 70 than 60 & on the shorter side of a normal distribution curve, I'm not considering this as a "walk-around" rig. My thoughts on a "walk-around rig" are another topic - as I someday hope to see a 400/4 DO II on my monopod with sidekick.

I'm struggling with your same question - re the 500 v 600. The good news - I'm fortunate in the photo opportunities I have for bird, wildlife, & nature photography. The not so good news - my skills & gear are limiting.

The back of our house faces (sic) a river, and I'm about midway between the Conowingo Dam (eagles) & the Bombay Hook NWR (migratory). As I can set a tripod on our rear deck & dock, and as Conowingo has parking close to the fence, I don't expect to usually carry this setup for long distances.

My lenses: 400/5.6, 100-400 II, & Tamron 150-600. Cameras: 1D4, 1DX2 and 7D2.

As an amateur, I confess to sticker shock at the cost of the 600/4 IS II and its related optical marvels. Then again, I'm lucky to have such photo opps & even more fortunate to have a supportive partner who encourages me.

Initially I thought about starting with the original 500/4 IS, working with it for a year or so, and later maybe upgrading. That morphed into substituting the 600/4 IS 12lb beast, reach being king.

Then others advised skipping the original versions and going directly to MK II's. Thinking about it, there's definitely something strange about the prospect of spending $6,000 on a lens that's a compromise over the true object of desire. -? stunning.

Tonight my plan is to continue saving and selling/reducing my gear collection, waiting for the opportunity for a reasonably priced clean or new 600 II. May I live so long.

Slippery slope.

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Jan 18, 2017 10:34 |  #50

All good points. One can however pick up a very good quality 500mm v1 for about $4k.
That was my #1 lens for over a decade. All it lacks vs the newer model is weight and less help from IS.


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Jan 18, 2017 14:45 |  #51

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18248271 (external link)
All it lacks vs the newer model is weight and less help from IS.

The newer versions of Canon lens's take extenders a lot better. I own both a 500mm f/4L 1 and a 600mm f/4L II so from personal experience I'm comfortable stating this point. If you're on a budget...definitely go with an older 500mm f/4L but if can afford it and need more reach...well, the choice is obvious.


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Jan 18, 2017 17:50 |  #52

Yes, this is true, especially from an AF standpoint with the new bodies,. that said, the older 500mm with a 1.4xII was no slouch at all. Not as good wide open, but stopped down to f/7-8ish it was near perfect.


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Jan 18, 2017 17:57 |  #53

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18248667 (external link)
Yes, this is true, especially from an AF standpoint with the new bodies,. that said, the older 500mm with a 1.4xII was no slouch at all. Not as good wide open, but stopped down to f/7-8ish it was near perfect.

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Jan 18, 2017 18:21 |  #54

Another vote for the 500mm V1 on the 1d4. Just chiming in :)

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Jan 19, 2017 14:48 |  #55

Love my 500 f4 V1.......best bit of gear I ever bought and works very well with 1.4X III


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Jan 19, 2017 17:10 |  #56

don1163 wrote in post #18249498 (external link)
Love my 500 f4 V1.......best bit of gear I ever bought and works very well with 1.4X III

Same here Don, here is a photo I took today with the 500/4 V1 with 1.4TC III.....This lens is sharp. The Photo has been cropped, the female blackcap was about 7-8 metres from me.

The 1.4x TC is usually connected to my lens 90% of the time. This gives me an equivalent focal length of 910mm with the 1d4. I get excellent results also with the 2x TC.

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Jan 30, 2017 13:39 |  #57

One other thought depending on If you plan on only using the lens on a tripod or freehand, especially with the injury is the 400 DO II. I don't have any experience with the lens, but I have seen and heard great things about it. The other thing is its very light, and works vert well with extenders. But it is rather pricey.


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Jan 30, 2017 14:57 |  #58

Bsmooth wrote in post #18259759 (external link)
One other thought depending on If you plan on only using the lens on a tripod or freehand, especially with the injury is the 400 DO II. I don't have any experience with the lens, but I have seen and heard great things about it. The other thing is its very light, and works vert well with extenders. But it is rather pricey.

That is an understatement !!! :lol:


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Jan 30, 2017 18:43 as a reply to Gregsiem's post |  #59

Unfortunately all the really nice toys are pricey!

There is always E Bay? I have had very good luck there - bidding on a biggish white thingy at the moment.............


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