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Wide angle lens recommendations for aircraft museums

 
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Jan 24, 2017 16:43 |  #1

I am planning trips to the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum and the Air force museum in the coming months.
I was hoping for wide angle lens advice.
Do either of these Sigma lenses look good for airplanes in museums? Will the 20mm cause wing distortion like a fisheye?
Are there any others that can be recommended. My camera is a Canon 6D
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Jan 24, 2017 16:48 |  #2

Heh, I was just going to suggest a fisheye. NVM...


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Jan 24, 2017 17:27 |  #3

What are you shooting?
Which lenses do you already own?
Have you been to the Air & Space Museum before?

Need more info to make a realistic suggestion. Thanks.


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Jan 24, 2017 18:17 |  #4

With film, the 20 was one of my favorite lenses. Yes, it will distort if you get too close, but what's the alternative? You could back off a little & crop in PP. Or try a pano with a shorter lens.
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Jan 24, 2017 18:28 as a reply to Naturalist's post |  #5

Hey thanks for the responses.
Current lenses include 300mmL, 100-400mmL, 100mmL, 28-135mm
Flash is 430Ex
These lenses work great for airshows however in a museum you usually cannot back far enough away to get the whole airplane in, hence my question.
I have been to both Smithsonians air museums. I want to go back to the Udvar-Hazy museum to get better pics
The Air Force Museum will be this spring and the navy museum later this year.




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Jan 24, 2017 18:28 as a reply to Alveric's post |  #6

Don't fisheyes cause distortion?




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Jan 24, 2017 18:49 as a reply to PhotosGuy's post |  #7

Thank you, would you buy the 20mm or the 24mm?
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Jan 24, 2017 19:34 |  #8

How about the 16-35 f4. It's only slightly more expensive than the lenses you're looking at. I've found it very useful for shooting aircraft. Granted the shots below were taken outdoors, not in a museum, but you get the idea. You can see how much distortion there is at the focal lengths noted.

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Jan 24, 2017 20:09 |  #9

DonL wrote in post #18254604 (external link)
Don't fisheyes cause distortion?

Yes, they do, but well handled the distortion is not a problem and may even be advantageous.

In the very cramped interiors of some aircraft, the fisheye is unbeatable:

IMAGE: http://www.diamantstudios.ca/Gemeines/Bilder/Al_Overcast--2.jpg


Fisheyes introduce practically NO distortion when your subjects are circular:

IMAGE: http://www.diamantstudios.ca/Gemeines/Bilder/Al_Overcast--1.jpg

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Lastly, a fisheye can net you some unique perspectives and images no other lens can:

IMAGE: http://www.diamantstudios.ca/Gemeines/Bilder/Al_Overcast--4.jpg

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Of course, fisheye lenses are specialist tools. I'd still have a regular wide angle AND a fisheye.

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Jan 24, 2017 20:16 as a reply to s1a1om's post |  #10

s1a1om, That was most helpful!




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Jan 24, 2017 23:05 |  #11

I was just opening this thread thinking fisheye, too.

It does depend on what type you get and how you use it. It is also possible to post-process the image.

Why bother with a fisheye? It will give you 180 degree field of view. You can't get close with anything else in a single shot.

A fisheye with a stereographic projection will look much more natural.

This fisheye lens review of a 12mm FE (which uses stereographic projection) may give you some helpful insight:

https://www.slrlounge.​com ...venture-photography-lens/ (external link)

It is possible to de-fish the images. This article and video cover how to do that:

http://www.lonelyspeck​.com/defish/ (external link)

If fisheye isn't for you, this lens might be worth a look:

http://www.popphoto.co​m ...a-12mm-f-28-zero-d#page-4 (external link)


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