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Jelloneck
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Jan 27, 2017 07:45 as a reply to post 18256671 |  #4096

I have the Samyang and love it. I mainly use it for astro work though. Really cannot beat the price and with a wide angle I don't see a problem manually focusing.


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Jan 27, 2017 07:57 |  #4097

Yeah, I made an offer on the Ziess that if accepted I would be really happy with, but if not I am going samyang.

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Pretty interesting how the fuji handles shooting directly into sunlight. MUCH better than canon. I mean, this is unusable with canon metering etc. I am finding the AWB and metering on the Fuji to be really damn good.

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I was digging this shot(looks alot better full size on my computer not compressed, guy is more legible and blacks more detail), but I am with Alan here. F16, I had the guy in dark clothes on the white sand path, I had the sun setting just at the tree line, and I got the hot blob, but as far as shooting into a sun it is not horrendous i guess? This was the 23 1.4, not kit so..Still pleased with it though, and it renders so much so well it is fair tradeoff, but stars are not happening that I can see in this kit.

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AlanU
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Jan 27, 2017 11:26 |  #4098

Nick3434 wrote in post #18256443 (external link)
Alan, there would be no doubt if the Fuji 14 was a 12 that I wouldn't even be hesitating for that one. Seems like it is a crazy good lens, but the fov from 14 to 12 is too great. So my background is this. I have a marble slab fabrication company and we are fortunate enough with many years of hard work and some good luck along the way to have become pretty good at what we do and work on the kind of jobs that require that. So at some point, I saw the benefit to having quality photos of our work and went on the internet and read that I needed a dslr. Bought a rebel and read about and learned everything else from trial and error to just get better than average documentation of our work for future use in website/portfolio etc. I wound up really enjoying photography in the process.

So the point in me saying all that is bathrooms. Shooting a large kitchen in a large house can be handled with the 14. Bathrooms are very difficult to show what I want to show, keep lines, and get it all in. On top of all this, our jobs go so fast and are wrapped up so fast that I only have a chance to shoot 10% at best by luck of timing of being there when it doesn't look like a bomb went off, but the clients are not living there. That and no one really cares about pics, but I can't make a big deal of it with speedlights and tripods, that turns people off big time, even pulling out the 6d gets comments, like it just makes what you are about to do go from no big deal to what is he doing how is he using these etc. So ideally I need 14mm on FF sensor in a body like an X-e2 hahahahaha. Perfect. In the mean time, I think I will try the 12, but I wish Fuji made a 12 instead of a 14, the fov is just too valuable at that end.

My only hesitation about the 12 is the 10-20, but I think that the size and appearance of that lens means I may as well have a 6d.

Well for the sake of having photos to advertise your business I'd actually suggest using your Canon 6d and buy a killer 16-35 f/4IS. Your simply going to pull out a mounted 6d...snap away.....Done!! Any client couldn't even remotely comment on a business using the photos as a portfolio for a website or ipad/laptop portfolio. Please not a new 16-35 f/4IS will literally have identical micro contrast and beautiful colour saturation as your Sigma 50A and identical sharpness as your 24Lmk2!!!!!!!!!!!! Definitely better IQ from a 16-35 f/4IS compared to my 10-24 fuji lens w/ 16MP fuji body. Hard to get sunflare shots with a 16-35f/4IS but fuji's sunflare blobs are not comparable to a dlsr with a mirror.

Buying $319 usd is an affordable cheap lens to buy. Manual lenses for me is unappealing to me as my composition is the utmost importance and I dont want to put any efforts in manual focus. I run and gun alot so manual is low on my priority list. This is why I purchased the fuji 10-24mm f/4 stabilized lens. Fuji UWA is actually physically narrower than a 16mm f/1.4 and marginally longer. As far as size is concerned its no bigger than an 18-55 kit lens.

I own a UWA for every camera I have. 80D w/ 10-22, fuji w/ 10-24 and 5d3 w/ 16-35L mk2. I find great application using UWA. The Fuji 10-24 is absolutely killer and since your shooting f/5.6 - 6.3 I'd say that lens would work. I also incorporate remote flash work with my fuji x-T10 w/ 10-24mm will amazing results.

Your application you do have time to compose a shot and shoot manual. The 12mm may be a perfect solution for you.

If your intending to buy an X-T2 you'd take advantage of higher iso capabilities and a 10-24mm would work even better.


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Jan 27, 2017 16:05 |  #4099

Hey Alan, I guess what I mean is that, there are times I am in houses that are almost done in which either:

1.) I know I will be there, know the house is almost done, and will have asked if it is OK to take pics and with approval will bring my 6D/24/14

2.) Yesterday when I didn't realize the kitchen was more or less done, pulled Fuji out of car, snapped a few on the low and moved on. I got a few captures that make it all worth while as documentation of our work.

It isn't that taking pictures is a problem, it is my work, but it is just in weird grey area of it is other peoples work as well and I have found that anytime a DSLR and "big" lens comes out, people become more questioning of if it is cool or not or what is going on, I thought this was just taking some pics. Like in the high end construction world, busting out speedlights and tripod would be like "whoa, whoa, this is someones house, you cant do this" as where no one cares if you just take some pics for your records. So Ideally I want the best pics I can get while being cool and low key about it and not making any waves.

The point of the fuji is to have on me alot and take pics and enjoy it, and I would like to have a lens that can give me something good in scenario number 2.

Also, it is really more of something for me to document our work and have usable images for website redressing etc. We don't advertise, and it is more of "having" some proofs of body of work to be used later for anything or maybe never at all. I am clearly not a pro photographer, I do this for fun, but at the same time I would like to have pretty decent shots of a body of work, even if it is for my own enjoyment down the road. I got into this just looking for shots that look more professional than not. At best most companies like mine on their sites that show their own actual work (not many at all these days) are using a 18-50 in auto on a rebel. That is like the better end of spectrum. I am just looking to stay as far ahead of that as I can without making a big deal about it I guess.


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Jan 27, 2017 16:20 |  #4100

https://petapixel.com .../x-trans-promise-problem/ (external link)

Thoughts on this anyone? I've got the x100f on order and this is the first I've read this. Lot of nonsense?


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Jan 27, 2017 16:33 |  #4101

xpfloyd wrote in post #18257157 (external link)
https://petapixel.com .../x-trans-promise-problem/ (external link)

Thoughts on this anyone? I've got the x100f on order and this is the first I've read this. Lot of nonsense?

I assume you shoot raw, and I only had a quick scan of the article but it appeared to be about in camera processing of jpegs?


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bobbyz
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Jan 27, 2017 16:41 |  #4102

Wouldn't 14mm f2.8 be better for architecture compared to samyang 12mm. My 14mm has no distortion.


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Jan 27, 2017 17:36 as a reply to xpfloyd's post |  #4103

Having used Fuji cameras in many situations along side up to date full frame cameras [with the L or Art lenses] over about a year for both paid and personal shooting, I choose to go only Fuji. If my shots were turning up like that I would not be able to work.

There is no exif data in those images and no colour space info either. I think if you use your good judgement and look at the images posted & hopefully printed, both here and elsewhere by those who actually own and use correctly the camera you'll have your answer.

Edit: both the colour and sharpening were set to +4 the maximum allowed, for some reason.


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Jan 27, 2017 18:54 |  #4104

xpfloyd wrote in post #18257157 (external link)
https://petapixel.com .../x-trans-promise-problem/ (external link)

Thoughts on this anyone? I've got the x100f on order and this is the first I've read this. Lot of nonsense?

This nonsense still going on. Everyone want to generate traffic for their websites, blogs and what not now a days.

Sony A7rII vs Fuji XT1

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And I didn't even spent more than a min. in LR to convert these from RAW to jpegs.

BTW - Here is ISO6400 when I got the camera more than 3 yrs ago and was using jpeg.

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AlanU
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Jan 27, 2017 19:12 |  #4105

Fuji (16mp) Jpgs beyond iso 4000 can produce wax looks on human subjects. I do not have an X-T2 to comment on "wax". The thing I will have to say is that the light MUST BE challenging when you shoot ISO 4000+. I'm not talking about using ISO 4000+ with ample non challenging light with fast shutter speeds. This is why I never use jpgs and always use RAW files. However my only time I accept out of camera jpg is when I shoot panorama with my fuji bodies.


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AlanU
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Jan 27, 2017 19:32 |  #4106

Nick3434 wrote in post #18257142 (external link)
Hey Alan, I guess what I mean is that, there are times I am in houses that are almost done in which either:

1.) I know I will be there, know the house is almost done, and will have asked if it is OK to take pics and with approval will bring my 6D/24/14

2.) Yesterday when I didn't realize the kitchen was more or less done, pulled Fuji out of car, snapped a few on the low and moved on. I got a few captures that make it all worth while as documentation of our work.

It isn't that taking pictures is a problem, it is my work, but it is just in weird grey area of it is other peoples work as well and I have found that anytime a DSLR and "big" lens comes out, people become more questioning of if it is cool or not or what is going on, I thought this was just taking some pics. Like in the high end construction world, busting out speedlights and tripod would be like "whoa, whoa, this is someones house, you cant do this" as where no one cares if you just take some pics for your records. So Ideally I want the best pics I can get while being cool and low key about it and not making any waves.

The point of the fuji is to have on me alot and take pics and enjoy it, and I would like to have a lens that can give me something good in scenario number 2.

Also, it is really more of something for me to document our work and have usable images for website redressing etc. We don't advertise, and it is more of "having" some proofs of body of work to be used later for anything or maybe never at all. I am clearly not a pro photographer, I do this for fun, but at the same time I would like to have pretty decent shots of a body of work, even if it is for my own enjoyment down the road. I got into this just looking for shots that look more professional than not. At best most companies like mine on their sites that show their own actual work (not many at all these days) are using a 18-50 in auto on a rebel. That is like the better end of spectrum. I am just looking to stay as far ahead of that as I can without making a big deal about it I guess.

Nick,

Your current photos of your interior shots are very good.

The 14mm fuji lens is recognized as a killer lens wide lens with extremely low distortion.

For any hardcore fuji user I think the X-T2 is one of the best offerings in performance in the fuji flavour. I'm totally appreciating the 16mp bodies I own but the AF performance is "better" for my slower moving subjects. I really do need the X-T2 to meet my demanding needs in a camera. For casual non serious enjoyment I love the fuji. I still cannot leave canon for my remote flash work. My fuji 16mp bodies just doesn't cut it for me as far as ergonomics are concerned.


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Jan 27, 2017 21:19 as a reply to bobbyz's post |  #4107

Yeah Bobby, just worried it isn't wide enough for bathrooms. I am thinking though, I would get a lot of use out of the 14 I think for personal fun screwing off photos, more than 12. Seems like 21 would be a FL I could get down with. I also use my 24 a lot for kitchens, mostly really, only use the 14 when I have to(Tight bath mostly). I am starting to lean that way and it is what it is for small baths.

I just looked back and I am really thinking the 14 could be fine now and may be most versatile all around. Below is with a 24

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3 degrees more than that should really be ok for 80% plus of my shots. And the IQ off that lens will make more of those 80% nice pics.

It is this one that I am worried about

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I had a lot of challenges in post with this. It Looks magenta strong but door and toilet are cool and the hue is from gold in wallpaper reflecting the yellow light and ugh, etc., and maybe 21 would have had less ceiling in frame and less lighting issues or I guess point is I feel like I need wide as possible, but end of day keepers, do I?

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Jan 27, 2017 21:48 |  #4108

Nice shot of the bathroom.


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Jan 28, 2017 01:50 |  #4109

Thanks for the responses. I didn't have an issue with my x100t when I had it so as long as things haven't went backwards I won't have an issue with the x100f. I shoot raw so waxy skin was never an issue. I want to shoot more jpeg with the F though but I figured that link was nonsense as no one else is saying it


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Jan 28, 2017 03:21 as a reply to xpfloyd's post |  #4110

I remembered posting a couple of JPEG's, I took at a friends party, with my X-PRO2 regarding the 'good' high ISO rendition. Both images are SOOC JPEG's pushed 2 stops. See for your self.

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This is a sooc jpeg in that lovely Fuji grainy Across and puhsed 2 stops in Lr. From a party I was shooting at a few weeks ago. ISO5000 and 2 stops in post, from a jpeg...

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And this sooc jpeg from later that night, light from the dim house light about 80 feet away, ISO12800 and again pushed 2 stops of exposure in Lr.

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