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Jan 30, 2017 15:29 |  #10501

tommyc wrote in post #18259822 (external link)
I recently started trying to learn product photography. This is my first attempt at shooting a wine bottle after several hours in the basement.


Here's the setup shot.

Two strobes in strip boxes shooting through 43" collapsable diffusers at an angle to create the gradients on the bottle sides. Label was lit using a hand held speedlight with a snoot.
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I shoot a lot of wine bottles at work and I've got to say that that's a good start. It would help to have some definition of the edges of the bottle, because the highlights make it look like the label is floating outside the edge, which is what the previous poster was talking about. The bottle looks to be tilting to the right and the neck looks even more tilted. I've found that there are a lot of variances in wine bottles and if the client gives you one with a crooked neck you have to use some TRANSFORM in PS to correct it. You'll also get very familiar with the heal and clone tools in PS to get rid of unwanted reflections. The label on the capsule of the bottle needs to be centered as well which usually means taking a second shot with the label straight and compositing it in post. You have a nice gradient of light from your highlights but the bottom looks bit funky and could use some clone tool help. That is a great start and I love looking at bottle shots and their setups. Keep posting as you try new things!

I set up my studio at work today to do a similar shot, although not on black. Strip boxes on the sides and center strobe is my go-to setup for bottle photography.


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Jan 31, 2017 12:11 |  #10502

Thanks for the encouragement and comments. That label still bugs me, a lot. I think I need to move the gradients back further but haven't had much luck doing it yet.

I'm really new at this type of photography and I have really enjoyed it so far. Its been a lot of work, but also a lot of fun.




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Feb 01, 2017 12:35 |  #10503

Finally took a setup shot while teaching a class on studio photography at my work place.

Setup

IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/s10/v115/p2191937691-5.jpg

Result, very little pp if any
IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/s6/v144/p2191933279-5.jpg

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Feb 01, 2017 15:42 as a reply to bobbyz's post |  #10504

Looks kind of over exposed.


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Feb 01, 2017 16:50 |  #10505

saea501 wrote in post #18261875 (external link)
Looks kind of over exposed.

I blame Peter Hurley.


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Feb 01, 2017 16:59 |  #10506

Alveric wrote in post #18261935 (external link)
I blame Peter Hurley.

:)

BTW - Here is the histogram in LR.

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Feb 01, 2017 17:11 |  #10507

bobbyz wrote in post #18261945 (external link)
:)

BTW - Here is the histogram in LR.

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I like the result.


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Feb 01, 2017 17:11 as a reply to bobbyz's post |  #10508

I'll blame Adobe :)




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dmward
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Feb 01, 2017 17:40 |  #10509

bobbyz wrote in post #18261667 (external link)
Finally took a setup shot while teaching a class on studio photography at my work place.

Setup
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Result, very little pp if any
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Looks good Bobby.
Kind of surprised the white foam core was sufficient bounce to balance the other lights.
The nice black pupil in the eyes confirms that all the tonal range is there.

Where are the AD600s ?? :-D


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Feb 01, 2017 18:16 as a reply to bobbyz's post |  #10510

Nicely done sir!


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Feb 01, 2017 18:21 as a reply to dmward's post |  #10511

Thanks Dave. I was using BRXi and DLites for these. These are in our work studio. XPLOR600s are mine but then I need to drive to work instead of taking the bus.

Foamcore on that table wasn't giving enough fill and then one the students (co-worker) in the class suggested to put that apple box in between which really helped. Next time I will probably use four strobes.


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dmward
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Feb 01, 2017 22:00 |  #10512

bobbyz wrote in post #18261999 (external link)
Thanks Dave. I was using BRXi and DLites for these. These are in our work studio. XPLOR600s are mine but then I need to drive to work instead of taking the bus.

Foamcore on that table wasn't giving enough fill and then one the students (co-worker) in the class suggested to put that apple box in between which really helped. Next time I will probably use four strobes.

As you know from the PH videos, his approach is to emulate the light he got in his early headshot days from a large window, north facing, behind him. While I like the look as you've achieved it, I'd like to see what it looks like for someone to do this type headshot with a really big, say 6 foot, octa with double diffusion right behind them.

Or a large Buff PLM. Mmmm... Maybe I'll try that myself.

The only thing I don't really like about PH approach is the funny catch lights in the eyes.


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Feb 01, 2017 22:02 |  #10513

saea501 wrote in post #18261875 (external link)
Looks kind of over exposed.

I think this is a "look" which many like. It has the advantage of dealing with potential skin issues--the new "soft focus" :).

I do think with shooting this intentional it's probably a good idea to deal with the hair before taking the shot. The standard is much higher for the "beauty shot" look.


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Feb 01, 2017 23:10 |  #10514

We shouldn't confuse high-key (intentional) with over-exposed (a mistake). The same goes for low-key and under-exposed. We are not cameras that panic if the scene isn't 18% grey! :eek: ;)


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Feb 01, 2017 23:32 |  #10515

dmward wrote in post #18262176 (external link)
I'd like to see what it looks like for someone to do this type headshot with a really big, say 6 foot, octa with double diffusion right behind them.

I will try next week but only have 5' octa.


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