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Feb 02, 2017 12:32 |  #10516

Alveric wrote in post #18262221 (external link)
We shouldn't confuse high-key (intentional) with over-exposed (a mistake). The same goes for low-key and under-exposed. We are not cameras that panic if the scene isn't 18% grey! :eek: ;)

Yep. I use a flash meter. Except for HS work. But as you do more and more HS you can Dial-in exposure fast. (Elinchrom is HS. HSS...).


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Feb 02, 2017 17:06 |  #10517

Alveric wrote in post #18262221 (external link)
We shouldn't confuse high-key (intentional) with over-exposed (a mistake). The same goes for low-key and under-exposed. We are not cameras that panic if the scene isn't 18% grey! :eek: ;)

My rule of thumb is that high key has most values above the mid tones, but has a tinny bit of deep shadow, approaching black for visual tonal reference without making the image look weird.

Just the opposite for low key.

Bobby's images look just fine to me as high key headshots, which is the intent.


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Feb 02, 2017 18:49 |  #10518

Just took the leap from a light tent. Since I bought these flashpoint xplors for architectural photography I figured why not use them for other work as well? Light on the right is a yongnuo speed light.

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Feb 02, 2017 22:28 as a reply to erk's post |  #10519

Steve Jobs says Thank You :)




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Feb 02, 2017 22:36 |  #10520

erk wrote in post #18263045 (external link)
Just took the leap from a light tent. Since I bought these flashpoint xplors for architectural photography I figured why not use them for other work as well? Light on the right is a yongnuo speed light.

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Some clean up on the light reflections in the lens and you have it.
Nice work.


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Feb 03, 2017 00:07 |  #10521

BJ_Nguyen wrote in post #18263233 (external link)
Steve Jobs says Thank You :)

Haha. Well, what can I say? We make iphone cases.

dmward wrote in post #18263235 (external link)
Some clean up on the light reflections in the lens and you have it.
Nice work.

Thanks much. Do you have any suggestions on the cleanup? I don't want to lose the green in the modifier reflections.


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Feb 03, 2017 08:03 |  #10522

erk wrote in post #18263271 (external link)
Haha. Well, what can I say? We make iphone cases.

Thanks much. Do you have any suggestions on the cleanup? I don't want to lose the green in the modifier reflections.

That's the thing. Its the bright green reflections of the modifiers that should to be eliminated in my view. The key is to find a way to maintain the shape of the lens. Another option would be to find a way to stretch and smooth the reflections. Think the long soft highlights used to define the edges of wine bottles etc. Its usually easier to do that with modifiers during the shoot.


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Feb 03, 2017 10:38 |  #10523

dmward wrote in post #18263466 (external link)
That's the thing. Its the bright green reflections of the modifiers that should to be eliminated in my view. The key is to find a way to maintain the shape of the lens. Another option would be to find a way to stretch and smooth the reflections. Think the long soft highlights used to define the edges of wine bottles etc. Its usually easier to do that with modifiers during the shoot.


Gotcha. Might be a bit tricky with a lens that has a 160 degree FOV.

What about something like this?

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Feb 03, 2017 10:55 |  #10524

erk wrote in post #18263609 (external link)
Gotcha. Might be a bit tricky with a lens that has a 160 degree FOV.

What about something like this?
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Thats good work right there!


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Feb 03, 2017 11:57 |  #10525

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #18263614 (external link)
Thats good work right there!

Thanks! Gotta love photoshop.


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Feb 03, 2017 14:29 |  #10526

erk wrote in post #18263651 (external link)
Thanks! Gotta love photoshop.

Without question! :lol:


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dmward
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Feb 04, 2017 09:02 |  #10527

erk wrote in post #18263609 (external link)
Gotcha. Might be a bit tricky with a lens that has a 160 degree FOV.

What about something like this?

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That works. Much better.


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Feb 04, 2017 09:36 |  #10528

bobbyz wrote in post #18261999 (external link)
Next time I will probably use four strobes.

please don't, I find unnatural catch lights very distracting ;-)a


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Feb 04, 2017 12:49 |  #10529

FJ LOVE wrote in post #18264374 (external link)
please don't, I find unnatural catch lights very distracting ;-)a

Double catchlights were always a point of contention for the Peter Hurley hi key style portraits. Maybe so...

But the result is BOOOM!!!... :lol:

I was lucky enough to meet him in a B&H seminar. Great photographer, great personality. He engages his models (and his audience) to bring the best out of them. The little catchlights become secondary issue...


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Feb 04, 2017 14:12 |  #10530

MakisM1 wrote in post #18264522 (external link)
Double catchlights were always a point of contention for the Peter Hurley hi key style portraits. Maybe so...

But the result is BOOOM!!!... :lol:

to each his own, I'm sure they get lots of likes on facebook, this is a photography forum :lol:


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