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Feb 08, 2017 18:17 |  #1

I still am shooting happily with my beast 1D Mark III but I am thinking of going to either a 5D MkIV or maybe even the Sony Mirrorless route soon, any recommendations for a fast SD card for video on those with a card that is also affordable? Preferably 64GB?

Also, does anybody know if a 1D Mark III can use a 64GB SD card? Currently I am using 32GB's without any problems.


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Feb 08, 2017 22:56 |  #2

If you consider the 5DMkIV I would steer clear of SD cards, if writing speed is of concern. The SD interface is seriously crippled and I doubt that 4K Video will be possible at all. Maybe an SD as a backup or for JPG files, but your main card needs to be CF! I suggest to invest in a reputed brand like Lexar, SanDisk or Transcend. Go for the fastest CF card you can afford, like 1066x on Lexar.
I don't know enough about the Sony Cameras to make any recommendations here.




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Feb 08, 2017 23:32 |  #3

SunnyValentine wrote in post #18268393 (external link)
If you consider the 5DMkIV I would steer clear of SD cards, if writing speed is of concern. The SD interface is seriously crippled and I doubt that 4K Video will be possible at all. Maybe an SD as a backup or for JPG files, but your main card needs to be CF! I suggest to invest in a reputed brand like Lexar, SanDisk or Transcend. Go for the fastest CF card you can afford, like 1066x on Lexar.
I don't know enough about the Sony Cameras to make any recommendations here.

Incorrect information. 5D4's SD interface is UHS-I, which has max speed of 104MB/s. It is not UHS-II, but it is not crippled at all like 5D3.


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Feb 09, 2017 05:14 |  #4

http://www.cameramemor​yspeed.com ...iv/sd-cf-card-speed-test/ (external link)

There's tons of info here on the performance of different cards/sizes/brands in the 5D IV, along with pricing. They have info on a couple of Sony models too.
This info is only for card writing performance when shooting various setting of photos though, nothing really there about video... although I'd think a card that performs well with photos should be similar with video.


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Feb 09, 2017 10:09 |  #5

Lyndön wrote in post #18268533 (external link)
This info is only for card writing performance when shooting various setting of photos though, nothing really there about video... although I'd think a card that performs well with photos should be similar with video.

The site http://alikgriffin.com ...for-the-canon-5d-mark-iv/ (external link) does include 4K video in its card testing results.

I don't know the specs of the 5DMkIV but there an interesting comment about their testing. I assume the 5DMkIV still has the 29 minute ++ limitation on video length. If so you chew up most of a 128 GB card in that 29 minutes!

4k Video Record Time: 16 minutes per 64GB card




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Feb 10, 2017 22:15 |  #6

Thank you guys. The main reason I'm looking at SD right now is because I can use it in my 1D, and eventually either the 5D or Sony cams depending which I get.
I see that the 5D can use microSD, is that with an adapter?


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Feb 11, 2017 02:07 |  #7

Yep, it would have to be with some sort of transflash adapter - which is basically an SD card with a slot in the back for a microSD. I have a few of them that came with my GoPro microSD cards to allow them to be used in SD slots. You can also get them to convert SD to CF, if you have a need for that.
I've never used one in my EOS cameras though, and I have no idea if there's a significant speed decrease when using an adapter.


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Feb 11, 2017 02:11 |  #8

Oh, and from your original question about what size card the 1D3 can take... looks like whatever you want to throw in it according to this thread http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=852672


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Feb 13, 2017 11:31 |  #9

eelnoraa wrote in post #18268411 (external link)
Incorrect information. 5D4's SD interface is UHS-I, which has max speed of 104MB/s. It is not UHS-II, but it is not crippled at all like 5D3.

I stand corrected, and rephrase:
The 5DMkIV's SD Interface is less crippled than the one of the MkIII, while still not delivering the performance that is technically possible and available in several other Cameras of the same generation.
I strongly suggest to look into CF cards instead, if 4K Video and fast bursts in photography is of importance to you!




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Feb 14, 2017 19:32 as a reply to Lyndön's post |  #10

Thank you!


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Mar 21, 2017 19:05 |  #11

Here is a question guys.

I just bought the 5DIV (oh my poor credit card) and I have an Lexar 128GB 1066x CF card on the way, apparently one of the best/fastest cards you can get.
From what I've been learning, the 5D will not support video over 4GB in size as it is Fat32, but if you get cards over 128GB it will change to exFat to support larger file sizes. Could I just format my card in my Mac as exFat and then use in the 5D?


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Mar 21, 2017 20:08 |  #12

drisley wrote in post #18307376 (external link)
Here is a question guys.Could I just format my card in my Mac as exFat and then use in the 5D?

I suggest you do low level format in camera, then test at 4K if that is your desire. If the card is larger than 128 gb, it will be formatted to exFat. See http://support-th.canon-asia.com ...nts/TH/EN/820302140​0.html (external link).

Use some care with exFat. The files will not be limited to the 4 gb of FAT32. That means you computer and sssociated software has to handle exFat file sizes.




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Mar 21, 2017 22:47 |  #13

From what I read on Dpreview's forum (LINK (external link)), it works fine if you externally format your smaller cards as exFat and use them in the camera. It doesn't care about card size when it's actually writing to the card... it only makes the distinction when it's doing the formatting in-camera.

Seems like a nice way to not have a bazillion small files if you're shooting a lot of 4K.


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Mar 21, 2017 23:18 |  #14

Thanks guys. Card is arriving Thursday. I do format my external hdd's in exFat so I can use with mac or pc and it works well.


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Mar 24, 2017 21:14 |  #15

I bought a Sony ARII Mirrorless camera for a trip last year.
I kept all my Cannon Equipment at home and thought if it works out I'll go smaller with the Sony
I just took a big loss and traded in the Sony and lenses.
The reason was durability. I was in SE Asia and it just couldn't handle the humidity. I'd go inside an ac space then outside again. Sometimes I would wait 30 to 45 minutes for the condensation to clear.
This has never happened with my old EOS 1 D




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