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EF 35-350 L or EF-S 70-300 USM

 
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Feb 15, 2017 15:56 |  #1

Hi, there's a bunch of experienced people on these forums who have used both, hoping to get their opionions. Both lenses are quiet an investment, I'd like to get a good value for the money.

I have a crop sensor and I take images of 'things that fly' including long distance shots like this. This is a tight crop and a lot of panic post trickery get a decent IQ.

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I understand the L lens does not produce more zoom with a crop sensor, just produces a smaller frame. This particular L lens takes some extra effort and learning, but I like the challenge. I also have a completely manual fisheye that I love.

I like the build quality, the glass, and IQ L lenses produce.

But would I get anything close with the EF-S 70-300? Is it comparable glass, build, IQ? The IS is a bonus of course but I'll likely not need with daytime fast shutter speeds.

I'm of the mindset that if I'm investing $500+ on a lens, I ought to spend a bit more to get the difference in quality and value that outweighs the extra expense.

Thanks in advance.

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Feb 16, 2017 06:46 |  #2

An EF mount lens will give you the same field of view on a crop sensor as an EF-S mount, so you won't see a smaller frame. You may already be saying that, but don't want you thinking what you see in the viewfinder or the image coming out of the camera is going to be smaller. Also, there is no ef-s 70-300. All the variants of 70-300 come in ef mount only.

Not sure which flavor of 70-300 you are specifically referring to, but I'm assuming the L given the comparison to the 35-350. I can only speak to use of the 70-300L vs a 55-250 non stm. The IQ is a definite step up and focus is very fast and accurate. It's fairly compact and balances nice on a xxD body. From what I've seen in samples and commentary, I would still choose the 70-300L over the 35-350L. I've seen used prices on the 70-300 down into the 700's on occasion which make it a relative bargain.


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Feb 16, 2017 06:49 |  #3

If you want focal length range, and decent IQ, consider the older model of the 100-400L. I've seen them on these boards for $700. It it is the only one of Canon's bargain zooms that accepts EF Teleconverters.


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Feb 16, 2017 11:47 |  #4

Yeah, my mistake. EF-S doesn't come as a 70-300, wishful eyesight I guess.

I read that the 70-200f4L has better IQ than the 35-350L so I may just end up getting the 70-300 USM for the reach and hoping IQ is better than the 350L since it's newer by a lot.

Thanks for the input.


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Feb 16, 2017 12:55 |  #5

I agree with Bassat; spend a few extra dollars on the 100-400L V1. You'll get 100mm extra reach, USM focus, image stabilizer and L glass for a nice price. Keep in mind, back in it's heyday, this was the birding lens of choice and still is my main lens shooting everything from my daughter's softball games to the Rolex 24 at Daytona. For the current prices of this lens, it can't be beat.


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Feb 16, 2017 22:17 |  #6

I am looking at 100-400's with a $1000 budget there's a lot to choose from. Thanks.

I took this image yesterday, it's the SpaceX rocket laying on its side by the launch pad. This is about 4 miles away.

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Feb 16, 2017 22:59 |  #7

if you're after reach, there are better options than those 2...you could look at one of the 150-600mm's from tamron or sigma


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Feb 17, 2017 05:07 |  #8

Honestly, for shots of the SpaceX facility (which you seem to like, and not for no reason) why not just go for a 400/5.6? Not like it's a bird or other animal that might come closer to you.


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Feb 17, 2017 12:13 |  #9

I would second the recommendation to look at the Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary (I love mine) or a long prime since you don't seem to need the shorter end of the zoom range. Using my 150-600 I almost never shoot below 400mm or so, and that's shooting small birds, squirrels and other wildlife that tend to get closer than a shuttle launch.

At under $1000 the Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary is a hard lens to beat, and coming from the 55-250 (which I also have) you'd have significantly more reach compared to a 300mm max focal length.

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Feb 18, 2017 14:23 |  #10

ct1co2 wrote in post #18275301 (external link)
An EF mount lens will give you the same field of view on a crop sensor as an EF-S mount, so you won't see a smaller frame. You may already be saying that, but don't want you thinking what you see in the viewfinder or the image coming out of the camera is going to be smaller. Also, there is no ef-s 70-300. All the variants of 70-300 come in ef mount only.

Not sure which flavor of 70-300 you are specifically referring to, but I'm assuming the L given the comparison to the 35-350. I can only speak to use of the 70-300L vs a 55-250 non stm. The IQ is a definite step up and focus is very fast and accurate. It's fairly compact and balances nice on a xxD body. From what I've seen in samples and commentary, I would still choose the 70-300L over the 35-350L. I've seen used prices on the 70-300 down into the 700's on occasion which make it a relative bargain.

I couldn't agree more..... a used 70-300L is what I'd buy. Mine is excellent. So excellent that when I bought the 100-400L I just couldn't part with it. I ended up "loaning" it to our youngest son.

I've also seen them used in the $700's. I paid $1400 for mine and was happy with the purchase at the time because I got so many great photographs with it. At $700, it's a steal. The only reason the price dropped so much is the 100-400ii was so good, many owners of the 70-300L bought one... and the 70-300L prices reflect that. Supply and demand.

Edit: I should have read the rest of the entries after the one I quoted. The Sigma 150-600 Contemporary is a great option as long as you get the dock to make any adjustments necessary. It's only $60 or so. The 600mm would be useful for what you do.


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Feb 20, 2017 15:01 |  #11

I got to see what 400mm was like with this prime.

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Considering the Sigma over the 100-400 because some extra reach would be nice for farther subjects. Definitely going to get the dock, that's a nice tool.

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